• Beaver [he/him]
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        5 months ago

        Discord will eventually go this route as well, as it's investors start demanding their pound of flesh. But yes, it's possible that the users will then move to yet another walled garden, in and endless cycle of enshitification.

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    The internet only took off because it was full of free content.

    Trying to monetize it is going against the very thing that made it popular and possible.

    How many times are they going to fucking try this shit. It's like watching a person open an empty box, close it, and open it again hoping there's something in there this time. Over and over again.

    • quarrk [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      It really has made me appreciate and gain an interest in FOSS. Always had a passing interest but I’m really starting to understand the principle behind it.

      I guess I used to think of it as a more libertarian ideology, like “the government is going to spy on my porn folders” sorta reasons, so I didn’t think too hard about it. But for communists I think it’s important for reasons of escaping capitalist hell.

      Makes me realize how some of the early computer folks like Richard Stallman saw what was coming, that it didn’t have to go the way of paid services. The good guys just lost. Or maybe it was never something to be won… idk. Free software, free digital media, free social media are important alternatives in capitalist society where everything is monetized, propagandized, and compromised/tracked.

      • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
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        5 months ago

        Supposing global communism were achieved, would global social media be a realistic or even desirable goal?

        Huge question, I know. I mean it practically in terms of computing power and all the resources needed for tech - could the world sustain it, SHOULD the world sustain it?

        Societally, would people drift away from social media being so central to their lives anyway? I think I would if the world around me actually satisfied me.

    • huf [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      oooooh, look, a commons! we know what to do with it. oh no, it's shit now. oh well.

    • Egon
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      4 months ago

      deleted by creator

      • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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        5 months ago

        True, it's been really interesting to see it replicated at alarming speeds. Monopolizing happening on time frames of a decade that previously took a century. It's tough to get people to understand systems that move at a glacial pace. The ocean taking a foot of beach a year can be ignored for a lifetime, etc. The rapid pace of things on the internet, the very pace that enabled all that "fast money" make it easier for people to track degradation in real time.

    • moonlake [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      It's like watching a person open an empty box, close it, and open it again hoping there's something in there this time. Over and over again.

      ok but what if there is a hypothetical cat in the box which may be considered simultaneously both alive and dead, while it is unobserved in a closed box, as a result of its fate being linked to a random subatomic event that may or may not occur? You need to open the box to see if it is alive or dead bazinga

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    5 months ago

    If they do revenue sharing with paywalled subreddits I will start soooooooooooooooooooo many grifts.

    • miz [any, any]
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      5 months ago

      isn't this already possible by the mod team only allowing people into a private sub that pay via a third channel

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        5 months ago

        I guess you could do it that way. You'd need a third party landing page to sell it though whereas the "you don't have access" page could also function as a sales page for paying to access if it's officially a function of reddit. Where you'd give mods the ability to give a bunch of reasons people should pay for access.

        I bet the first people that pick it up are sex workers. Essentially it's an Only Fans model for subreddits.

        • ashinadash [she/her]
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          5 months ago

          I bet the first people that pick it up are sex workers. Essentially it's an Only Fans model for subreddits.

          An actual beneficial use...

      • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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        5 months ago

        Once it's established enough, they will then proceed trying to remove NSFW content entirely

        • chungusamonugs [he/him]
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          5 months ago

          And they'll do it like Tumblr too. Not getting rid of actual NSFW content, just banning anything that references anything non-Cis or mentions trans people.

  • jackmarxist [any]
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    5 months ago

    I wish there was a way to migrate reddit data to some other website. The amount of data lost when reddit finally collapses will be tragic.

      • Cowbee [he/him, they/them]
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        5 months ago

        Maybe I'm wrong for it, but adding "reddit" for obscure tech questions to internet searches still gets me closer to the truth.

        • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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          5 months ago

          Their datasharing agreement with google probably hints that they have access to which subreddits get accessed most using this technique. Gonna guess if they paywall anything it's gonna be the somewhat useful stuff lol

          • crime [she/her, any]
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            5 months ago

            they'd have that info from the referer anyway - data sharing agreements would more likely include analytics on the content of the search queries

        • LeninsBeard [he/him]
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          5 months ago

          It's the only way to get halfway relevant results anymore it feels like.

    • umbrella@lemmy.ml
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      5 months ago

      there are efforts to archive it.

      run the archiveteam warrior if you have spare server space.

  • grendahlgrendahlgen [he/him, any]
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    5 months ago

    ... And the cycle continues. This is the end stage: vultures feasting on the still-warm carcass while riding it into the ground.

    • Owl [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      Okay but literal vultures eating literal a falling carcass sounds metal as fuck. Maybe they can do some sick board tricks while they're at it.

      • tripartitegraph [comrade/them]
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        5 months ago

        that judas priest Screaming for Vengeance cover, but the bird is eating the carrion, covered in blood as it zooms past

  • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]
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    5 months ago

    I can't wait for reddit to die. I only ever use it for hobby stuff, I can't wait till the resurgence of niche forums instead of just another subreddit

  • JohnBrownsBussy2 [she/her, they/them]
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    5 months ago

    Are they going to pick and choose which subreddits get paywalled, or pull some revenue sharing scheme with the moderators to get them to voluntarily paywall their subs? I could see the latter "working" by getting enough buy-in with super-users.

    • Asafum@feddit.nl
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      5 months ago

      or pull some revenue sharing scheme with the moderators to get them to voluntarily paywall their subs?

      Hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahah!

      Spez share the rewards of other people's content?? This is America the only correct way is for me to make money off of your work without proper compensation. I'm the main character!!

      :P

  • krolden@lemmy.ml
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    5 months ago

    I guess they realized since twitter has ruined the site so mu h but continue to have tons of active users so now any website can do the same.