It doesn't matter which nation produced the actors responsible, there is a ruling class of criminals who defy borders to create conditions wherein they can profit. The extent to which the constituent parts of this CIA/foreign intelligence services/business/organized crime network actually meet and speak frankly versus just generally being able to read the room is not important because the outcome is indistinguishable to us whether it's 10 guys in a smokey room or 10000 people acting as part of a system. It's a bad system either way and it should be replaced with one that makes any ruling class dictation impossible.
But I thought Ukraine didn't do it and Russia blew it up instead as a false-flag operation?
I think that absurd line held in mainstream media for what, maybe two or three months until it was untenable and they started pretending that some Ukrainians did it in a tiny boat
I think that absurd line held in mainstream media for what, maybe two or three months until
it was untenableregular people forgot Nord Stream even existedEven worse that people will continue to believe it even after the truth comes out
they started pretending that some Ukrainians did it in a tiny boat
Looks like that's going to be the official line if they're looking to arrest a single guy and maybe a handful of others
It's absolutely absurd to believe that this was done by three people on a tiny fishing boat but that's what's going to enter the public record forever and anyone who disagrees is a tankie
Yup.
Russia blew up their own pipeline that was printing them money, so that they could lose lots of money AND anger the West more, instead of just turning it off. Or charging even more exorbitant prices. Or just not doing that.
So many levels of idiocy, and yet that obvious lie worked
He's just pointing out the liberals' logic
Nobody sensible thinks he's stupid, man's been in charge of the US' chief rival for 20 years
Usually stupid people still have some internal logic to their actions.
99% positive that the US paid some ukranian guy to steal a useless blastcap just to have evidence that a ukranian was involved
I did think immediately 'ah, they've found themselves a fall guy'
More info will come out in time, I suppose. Give it 50 years.
I'm certain that this guy is already at a CIA black site, if he hasn't been killed by them already.
lol Rommel being one of the main figures in the clean Wehrmacht myth. They'll take the nazi detector and say "yep we found one of the good ones".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_Rommel
Who would name their kid
That's why it caught my eye! Sure people are going to have the same last name as historical monsters, it happens, but giving your kid the same name as a fucking nazi general? That sets off the
I recently learned the rapper Young Dolph’s name isn’t a reference to diamonds, but to his full name Adolph lol
I don't understand this, is the man literally named Volodymr Z(elensky)?
Imagine you're a liberal journalist working at one of the largest news sites in your country, then you write an article like this.
Most liberals are technocrats and they like to pretend to be professionals.How can you take yourself seriously after covering Nord Stream in western journals, and not sounding the alarm bells that this is complete and utter bullshit? Even worse for Germans, this could be considered treason, at least in some sense.
How are their heads not exploding from the cognitive dissonance?literally nobody gives a shit
like for fucking real if you want to shit on germany there are a billion fucking reasons to do so, but someone blowing up ten billion dollars of pipe isn't fucking shit on the radar
And the destruction of this much money is investigated in such a lackadaisical fashion, and nobody raises an eyebrow? Completely insane.
You have to understand that Germany is now more of a vassal of the US, which is kinda insulting to medival vassal relations. During the Cold War there was some leeway, but Merkel got rid of all of that.
Ukro diver
You've been down too long in the Baltic Sea
That's what we told Germany
You can click the little fediverse icon under the comment to see the comment in the poster's instance and see it that way
It's probably because I used a github link to the image. I don't mind having to write the markdown, but I don't know a good way to lookup the hexbear emote links outside of hexbear.
This article left out the best part: the guy's called Volodymyr Z
https://www.politico.eu/article/german-authorities-obtain-first-arrest-warrant-ukraine-nord-stream-bombing/
Can't believe that actually made me laugh out loud. I am truly poisoned.
"The ukrainian diver is russian" is the most dominant theory on Reddit and I'm not joking
never forget the boston marathon bombing and the geniuses over on that site
I witnessed that shit live. I swear, every big terrorist attack in the US gets South Asians the big stick.
Al Qaeda hit the Towers? An Indian/Pakistani IT nerd gets whacked, bonus points if they’re Sikh.
Dagestani white dude bombs marathon? Where are the brown mother fuckers.
It’s always color pallette. All the time every time.
Dollars to donuts the propaganda posters against Russians will have them depictdd with brown skin
Besides the implication of Putin destroying a thing that he already posses been idiotic, the phrase "ukrainian diver is russian" is itself dumb.
If I was putin and I didn't want the pipe I would do the third dimension clever chess move of just turning it off, or like.. not building it.
the cope i saw on
was that it would've been terrorism to not blow the pipeline up and this is good.
I could just be dumb, I have a hard time gauging that sort of thing with accounts from non-communist instances
My head canon is that whoever did this may have been Ukrainian but they were for sure CIA asset and now the state department will begin their inevitable process of abandoning Ukraine and throwing them under the bus for their own failures in this conflict w/ Russia
yeah, CIA provided the planning and equipment and they just grabbed some local manpower so they can take the fall instead if necessary. Textbook plausible deniability. Looks like the Ukrainian operatives got away with it anyway with Poland's help (they are so rabidly anti Russian they for sure would help them and the US with this)
Look, it was 100% Ukraine ok? Sure they might've recieved training and equipment from the US, and the US might've briefed them on their mission and provided all the intel, and the US dropped them off and picked them up afterwards, but this is 100% Ukraine and we must proudly and patriotically ignore the US's involvement in this in order to throw this week's scapegoat under the bus!
he would've gotten away with it too if it wasn't for those meddling kids and their dog
critical support for the us blowing up pipelines please more of this
The alleged diver in the attack had an arrest warrant issued, but Polish authorities have said he fled to Ukraine in July.
