Musician who knows nothing about politics, talks about politics, more at 11

  • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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    20 days ago

    “I mean, it’s clearly not working in Israel at the moment,” he said. “In my view, it sort of emboldens the worst aspects of the current government. They exploit this isolationist thing, like ‘The whole world is against us. No one will come and play.’ It’s used to further their nefarious agendas, while, at the same time, punishes ordinary fans.”

    That's a good point, we wouldn't want to punish the poor ordinary fans. Who live in Israel. In illegal settlements.

  • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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    20 days ago

    it's not a cultural boycott and that's the fucking point. it's a targeted deprivation of profits from capitalists to extract concessions, and it is provably effective. "cultural boycott" is just nonsense anyway, what does it mean to boycott a culture, especially a nonexistant isntraeli one

    • Infamousblt [any]
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      20 days ago

      The fact that governments everywhere are banning BDS tells me that it's extremely effective. If it didn't work they wouldn't care.

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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      20 days ago

      Guarantee "cultural" was just the modifier he tacked on to preempt the very obvious facts that boycotts do work

      • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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        20 days ago

        Just like China Hawks started calling it "cultural genocide" when it got too transparently ridiculous to call vocational schools genocide.

    • Pentacat [he/him]
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      20 days ago

      Genocide is a key component of Israeli culture, as pointed out by US lawmakers. To oppose genocide is a cultural boycott of Israel, and it harms Israelis by making them feel like targets.

  • TheModerateTankie [any]
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    20 days ago

    Look, trying to punish ethnic cleansing, genocide, and aparthied sounds good and all, but have you considered that it's actually quite inconvenient to me?

  • Rojo27 [he/him]
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    20 days ago

    Settlers in the genocidal entity of Israel are missing out on their favorite artists? Boohootook-restraint

  • miz [any, any]
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    20 days ago

    rich poser shithead loves genocide, too much of a coward to admit it

      • Hexboare [they/them]
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        20 days ago

        This was 6 years ago

        But I also do not support the Boycott, Divestments and Sanctions movement, as you know. I think the cultural boycott of Israel is cowardly and shameful. In fact, this is partly the reason I am playing Israel – not as support for any particular political entity but as a principled stand against those who wish to bully, shame and silence musicians. I don’t intend to engage in a detailed discussion as to how the boycott of Israel can be seen to be anti-Semitic at heart and, furthermore, does not work (rather, it risks further entrenching positions in Israel in opposition to those you support), but even the estimable Noam Chomsky considers the BDS as lacking legitimacy and inherently hypocritical. What we actually have here is a fundamental difference of opinion as to what the purpose of music is.

        • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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          19 days ago

          What we actually have here is a fundamental difference of opinion as to what the purpose of music is.

          No, what we have here are people engaging with the material reality of music being sold as a commodity and functioning as a cultural product that legitimizes a genocidal state with the veneer of international cultural convergence in the Middle East's Only Democracy™, and a man making a fool of himself by failing to consider how he's a part of a system that's larger than himself.

        • miz [any, any]
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          19 days ago

          even the estimable Noam Chomsky

          chumpsky is a fucking clown example #77,148

          https://dashthered.medium.com/the-anti-chomsk%C3%BFng-66dcd8224729

          https://redsails.org/on-chomsky/

        • miz [any, any]
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          19 days ago

          it risks further entrenching positions in Israel in opposition to those you support

          completely anti-materialist politics. reminds me of that cartoon where the guy is loudly complaining about how he was pushed into being a nazi as he has his head shaved

      • peppersky [he/him, any]
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        20 days ago

        His music is good which is why this sucks, if his music was bad there'd be no reason to care

    • jimmyjohnsandwichsix [any, they/them]
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      19 days ago

      Like seriously though, I started listening to his music maybe about a year ago and I just loved all of what I heard, and seeing this just made me feel so bad

      • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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        19 days ago

        Yeah, I feel the same way. I'll still keep listening to it because unlike Kanye he didn't say something stunningly bad, basically just the kind of ignorant stuff I'd expect from an out of touch boomer.