"You're a traitor" Yeah so antagonistic. There was plenty of opportunity to say "hey it's late let's talk tomorrow" or actually make a plan, they tried to reach out but instead your community is just hellbent on shitting up another place.
Edit: I say this as a trans person myself, you chill.
I don't think that's entirely fair. They've tried to reach out to mods and admins numerous times before, and, whether correctly or incorrectly, they have come out of those attempts concluding that the mods and admins, on the whole, are not themselves acting in good faith.
So what are they doing now, spamming the site with alts? How is that any more productive? It just annoys the rest of the regular users that have no part in the drama.
Because the accounts were spamming the same thing accusing a mod of being a pedo which was baseless. All in different forms but the same specific message/point.
To the point they turned off site registration. It only takes a few motivated individuals to drag a ton of people into this drama when they start seeing random people they don't even know accused of something with no proof.
drag a ton of people into this drama when they start seeing random people they don’t even know accused of something with no proof.
literally me
gave no fucks about the discord drama because, you know, i'm a fucking grown up.
chanced upon this "proof" they keep shouting about, turns out to be not what they say it is.
I tell them this, as do others
they double down
Same, I don't even like the discord either and I'm not a part of it, but accusing someone of being a pedo because you don't understand the context of a drawing then accusing everyone of bullying you when they refute a serious accusation, and just being an ass and constantly trying to speak for the trans members like myself who do enjoy this place really pissed me off.
I read the entire 30-something page imgur album of discord screenshots. I really tried to understand what the problem with the furry art/porn is, and I don't understand. I understand being weirded out by it if it's not an appropriate place for posting it and I understand demodding them if they were forcing people to look at it. But I don't understand what the outstanding issue with it is now that they've been demodded
edit just to be clear: i'm not a furry and i don't like furry porn, but i also don't kink shame. whatever consenting adults like to get into is Very Fine with me :zizek-ok:
I am a furry and it's common in furry art and even regular anime to draw a character in the "chibi style" when you want to depict awkwardness or innocence. It's absolutely not "cub" artwork since cub artwork usually uses regular/realistic dimensions but clearly underage versus the "roundness" of chibi. You have some shorks coming in and saying clean slate good. Basically they got banned from the Chapo discord server for whatever reason and are now bringing their grievances here because some of the mods overlap, and the chapo.chat mods have said they want a clean slate where it doesn't carry over. It speaks a lot to their (lack of) maturity and not being able to drop old shit.
Edit: They can literally make brand new accounts and no one would know or care, it's all on them.
it's also literally a depiction of two adults who view themselves this way and consented to this. I'm not going to kink-shame over this any more than I'm going to go after people for DDlg shit.
it's chibi, they think it's underage
none of them are furries, those of us that are have all said that the image they keep shouting about is chibi
they refuse to acknowledge it, one implying that searching a furry site for chibi artwork would be "searching for drawn child porn" despite the site in question having a ridiculously good tag system and cub artwork being auto blacklisted
and this is coming from someone who doesn't even LIKE chibi art, give me big burly dudes any day of the week
No they don't get removed, the user starts fighting with everyone and refuses to elaborate. They just get super combative and defensive and gets nowhere.
That was some of it, certainly, but there was more than that. Besides, that you think it is fucked up shows that you are presupposing the accusations to be false.
Holy shit are you antagonistic and deflective. No shit they're defensive you're trying to jump down their throats.
EDIT: And I say this as a trans person, chill dude.
"You're a traitor" Yeah so antagonistic. There was plenty of opportunity to say "hey it's late let's talk tomorrow" or actually make a plan, they tried to reach out but instead your community is just hellbent on shitting up another place.
Edit: I say this as a trans person myself, you chill.
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I'm sorry you have to deal with this, these people aren't looking for a resolution at this point.
I don't think that's entirely fair. They've tried to reach out to mods and admins numerous times before, and, whether correctly or incorrectly, they have come out of those attempts concluding that the mods and admins, on the whole, are not themselves acting in good faith.
So what are they doing now, spamming the site with alts? How is that any more productive? It just annoys the rest of the regular users that have no part in the drama.
How do you know these are the same people?
Because the accounts were spamming the same thing accusing a mod of being a pedo which was baseless. All in different forms but the same specific message/point.
There's literally no evidence though. And even if some of these people are, it is in no way organised or beyond just a few individuals.
To the point they turned off site registration. It only takes a few motivated individuals to drag a ton of people into this drama when they start seeing random people they don't even know accused of something with no proof.
literally me
gave no fucks about the discord drama because, you know, i'm a fucking grown up.
chanced upon this "proof" they keep shouting about, turns out to be not what they say it is.
I tell them this, as do others
they double down
Same, I don't even like the discord either and I'm not a part of it, but accusing someone of being a pedo because you don't understand the context of a drawing then accusing everyone of bullying you when they refute a serious accusation, and just being an ass and constantly trying to speak for the trans members like myself who do enjoy this place really pissed me off.
I read the entire 30-something page imgur album of discord screenshots. I really tried to understand what the problem with the furry art/porn is, and I don't understand. I understand being weirded out by it if it's not an appropriate place for posting it and I understand demodding them if they were forcing people to look at it. But I don't understand what the outstanding issue with it is now that they've been demodded
edit just to be clear: i'm not a furry and i don't like furry porn, but i also don't kink shame. whatever consenting adults like to get into is Very Fine with me :zizek-ok:
I am a furry and it's common in furry art and even regular anime to draw a character in the "chibi style" when you want to depict awkwardness or innocence. It's absolutely not "cub" artwork since cub artwork usually uses regular/realistic dimensions but clearly underage versus the "roundness" of chibi. You have some shorks coming in and saying clean slate good. Basically they got banned from the Chapo discord server for whatever reason and are now bringing their grievances here because some of the mods overlap, and the chapo.chat mods have said they want a clean slate where it doesn't carry over. It speaks a lot to their (lack of) maturity and not being able to drop old shit.
Edit: They can literally make brand new accounts and no one would know or care, it's all on them.
chibi is "cute and innocent in a childish way" rather than "literally depicting a child", right?
Yes, it's just an artwork. Shit they were doing Chibi gundams in the 80's!
it's also literally a depiction of two adults who view themselves this way and consented to this. I'm not going to kink-shame over this any more than I'm going to go after people for DDlg shit.
it's chibi, they think it's underage
none of them are furries, those of us that are have all said that the image they keep shouting about is chibi
they refuse to acknowledge it, one implying that searching a furry site for chibi artwork would be "searching for drawn child porn" despite the site in question having a ridiculously good tag system and cub artwork being auto blacklisted
and this is coming from someone who doesn't even LIKE chibi art, give me big burly dudes any day of the week
I wouldn't say there's no proof lol, but the proof is kind of hard to provide when it's being actively suppressed.
Is this what you're looking for?
The only thing posted was a 32 page discord chat. Literally everyone has been asking for a summarization of WHAT you want them to do.
Other things have been posted in the past, but they usually get removed quite quickly.
No they don't get removed, the user starts fighting with everyone and refuses to elaborate. They just get super combative and defensive and gets nowhere.
What do you think most of the brigading, especially on the first day, was?
Spamming fake alt accounts with slight variations of the user's name in question making fake admittances of being a pedo. It's fucked up.
That was some of it, certainly, but there was more than that. Besides, that you think it is fucked up shows that you are presupposing the accusations to be false.
So post some real fucking proof or concise steps mods can take, or go away.
The problem clearly is with the mods themselves, so it's not really something to be solved by some minor reform.
Then suggest major reform. But please, at least suggest something.
If you actually did this then they said no I'm sure you'd have a lot more people on your side. Instead yall are throwing a huge tantrum.
Nothing in u/TransComrade69's threads is getting removed by mods, she's been very clear about this
Pretty sure if you post something here now we'll be able to read it before it can be removed.
I don't have it on me personally, and it's pretty hard to find when it has always been removed, but I guess I'll see if I can find anything.
Feel free to dm it to me as well to make sure, I don't think even admins can remove other people's dms.