Just an observation ive made. I encounter one of those types every so often and usually just block them

  • abc [he/him, comrade/them]
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    Honestly not really. There is a part of me misses those kind of users from the old CTH (and CTH2/MoreTankieChapo/etc lol), if only because it meant there was no real cohesive groupthink. This isn't to say that I think Hexbear has reached some sort of equilibrium when it comes to certain takes/opinions/etc, but imo the average irony-poster/shithead probably plays some part in keeping the average Hexbear from jumping down the throat of another; even if that is only through providing an easier target (themselves with a bad take/'ironic' joke lol).

    One could probably argue I am closer to the average 'irony poisoned' poster in terms of personality/my own posts/what I come here for than I am to like the average daily news-megathread poster. (this is just an example off the top of my head of two 'groups' of Hexbear users; not meant to be definitive or singling anyone out LOL)

    But shrug-outta-hecks thankfully I have not enjoyed a single podcast since like 2010 when I was really into catching the newest Radiolab episode every week so I have never found shit like the middle-school 'ironic racism' level of humor from Nick Mullen/Stavros/etc funny like the average cumtown listener does and I am more gay than I am bisexual so the red scare women never managed to draw me in as a listener/fan either (sorry to any Red Scare listeners who take offense at my presumption that a large amount of their following is because the hosts are hot women - I am not qualified to say such things since I've never listened to an episode before so I will of course, defer to anyone who argues this)

    The less-stupid/racist and more amusing irony-pilled kind of humor that the CTH subreddit used to have though...my beloved. I miss the ironic/facetious responses to posts like "Please stop making fun of virgins" or when someone would post something like "HILLARY CLINTON WON TEXAS INSTEAD OF BERNIE BECAUSE SHE PROMISED TO SEND A BOTTLE OF CHOLULA TO EVERY PERSON WHO VOTED FOR HER" but in a more serious manner and suddenly there's a 250 comment post because no one realized it was the CTH equivalent of BMF.

    edgeworth-shrug honestly all this to say that I think the irony-pilled of us help prevent us from being the literal equivalent of the "No everything has to be serious at all times and we cannot find any humor in the absurdity of hell world. The last time I smiled was on August 19th, 1991. I always wear a dirty ushanka, do not shave, and only take cold sponge baths because hot running water is bourgeoisie decadence" copypasta

    • FearsomeJoeandmac [he/him, he/him]
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      8 days ago

      To each his own. I find that kind of humor derivative of Dril and try hard.

      I post my fair share of shit im sure people find stupid though

      • abc [he/him, comrade/them]
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        8 days ago

        I find that kind of humor derivative of Dril and try hard.

        90% of it absolutely is derivative & try-hard but idk I am the type of user who will gladly roll his eyes at some irony-poisoned bait/'joke' in badposting (or that has escaped containment and is elsewhere) and then get annoyed when I see another Elon tweet in the dunk-tank.

        Different strokes for different Hexbear folks indeed three-heads-thinking

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        8 days ago

        To each his own

        Show

        I know the intent isn't quite the same for you, but just a reminder that that isn't particularly ancient or profound wisdom and has some dubious uses.

      • abc [he/him, comrade/them]
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        8 days ago

        I don't think so beyond the sidebar stuff which is:

        1.02K users/day

        1.4K users/week

        1.8K users/month

        2.65K users/6 months

        26.9K users total

        But I'm like 90% sure that's just based on activity and not 'new' users. Probably a question better suited for our beautiful devs/admins at like feedback@hexbear.net or hexbear@hexbear.net

    • babybinladen [none/use name]
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      8 days ago

      honestly all this to say that I think the irony-pilled of us help prevent us from being the literal equivalent of the "No everything has to be serious at all times and we cannot find any humor in the absurdity of hell world. The last time I smiled was on August 19th, 1991. I always wear a dirty ushanka, do not shave, and only take cold sponge baths because hot running water is bourgeoisie decadence" copypasta

      Personally I strive for that level of commitment.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    When I first came to Hexbear, I was already over the irony poisoning shit that had outstayed its welcome for me, oh, since about a decade before that.

    I am allergic to "nothing matters except my immediate self interest, lol, I am being an asshole but just joking so you aren't allowed to respond negatively to that, U MAD TOP KEKLOLOLOL" shit and call it out whenever I see it.

    Also, Red Scare is financed by a literal vampire billionaire, so double fuck that noise.

  • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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    I've never thought Red Scare was funny, because they weren't big enough losers. They were just 'hot girls' pretending to be losers. The amount of actual irony there was limited from the jump.

    That being said, I have always been an advocate that Cumtown was, for a very long time (basically 2016-2020) literally one of the last bastions of actually creative funny comedy. I know this because even now other comedians and influencers are constantly ripping (or unknowingly copying) off their more creative bits years after they first did it, though usually watering down the bit in the process.

    I don't think that is the case anymore, other than the occasional very funny interview, but TAFS is at best ripping off Eric Andre or Between Two Ferns in longer form at this point.

    That said, I've never personally leaned into heavy irony for my comedy. It just isn't natural for me. But I have always advocated for it as being really fucking funny to listen to. Especially if you are depressed and working on a factory line.

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        8 days ago

        I mean, that's just objectively funny and is directly mocking both an ideological position he held and his death.

        • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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          8 days ago

          I don't disagree which is why I gave my honest assessment of this irony poisoning trend elsewhere in the thread.

        • FearsomeJoeandmac [he/him, he/him]
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          That shit is not funny, im sorry. Its stupid to me. Edgelords think its funny because its a dead old japanese man talking about fucking.

          Its not funny to me at least, i cant tell you what you do or dont find funny

          • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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            You're still not going to find it funny, because the joke has been explained, but you are completely missing the point. It's because it's the former neoliberal prime minister of Japan (who was assassinated) talking about fucking (which he only did like once) and promoting nationalist natalism in a country that is very much not fucking. Any old random Japanese dude would be not funny. It has to be Shinzo Abe.

              • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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                What are you even on about?

                Don't tone police me when I haven't even used a single rude word or tone outside of one (fucking) used in the exact same context you used it in. It's at worst disingenuous and at best assuming bad faith.

                I don't care if you don't find it funny, humor is highly subjective. I only posted because you explained the joke wrong.

                • FearsomeJoeandmac [he/him, he/him]
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                  isnt 'tone police' some shit the right always says and calls us SJWS for?

                  You basically implied the joke was explained to me, (even though it hadnt been yet) and that i still didnt get it, like im a dumbass or something. it felt rude to me.

                  Its what you said dude, not me.

                  if we both 'don't care' than i see no further reason to continue this conversation.

                  Have a nice night man.

                  Sorry our wires got crossed in this way.

          • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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            It's not edgy at all, it's literally just the most distilled down way to satirize that particular idea. "Edgy" stuff doesn't have a pointed critique attached to it. It's just meant to be offensive or shocking for it's own sake.

            Shinzo saying "Have Sex" while fading into the sunset isn't just funny because he's saying "Sex" it's funny because it reminds you of his nationalist hyper natalist philosophy and at the same time mocks his inability to accomplish those goals.

            The only "edgy" stuff here is really contained within the badposting comm and that's more of a meta bit where the very real context attached to these sorts of memes is dissolved and replaced with nothing.

            On a different note I can see how that style of telling that message can be convoluted, but trying to remove the context and say it's just "old man says sex" and that's all it's meant to be is not correct.

            • FearsomeJoeandmac [he/him, he/him]
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              i think youre trying a bit too hard to explain to me why this is funny, i still think its stupid. Sorry pal

              it just rubs me as 'haha old east asian man talking about sex' if its not, i dont really care. This stuff is generally just not funny to me, and when it is, its from the chapos or somebody else whos done it better and not just aping somebody else.

          • somename [she/her]
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            8 days ago

            That's fair enough. I'll admit I find it in the funny side, because it's mocking someone that was a ghoul in life, but I get humor and sensitivities on appropriate lines vary.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      If you do a user search on the mod log for "HexbearGPT" to see that user's deleted posts, I think that'd be a fairly solid example. Being an asshole (that time under the ableist/concern trolling "start being normal" variety) under pretenses of a "joke" then devaluing everyone that didn't accept the "joke" resulted in a ban.

      Maybe one of HexbearGPT's ban-evasion alts might get set off by me mentioning that (a few mysterious new accounts with account histories that started a day or two after that ban already did that before) but that's the first example I can think of.

  • gueybana [any]
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    8 days ago

    I do agree. But there’s nothing ironic about the cumtown followers’ poison.

    The red scare crowd really are the absolute worst bunch of people out there. Generally people with absolutely zero redeeming qualities to them

    • FearsomeJoeandmac [he/him, he/him]
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      8 days ago

      Yeah i hate that irony poisoned type of edgelord humor.

      You just look like an asshole to me if you act like that.

  • SevenSkalls [he/him]
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    Never even heard of the Red Scare podcast. Learning so much about the internet streaming and podcast culture from this instance lol.

    Sounds like I shouldn't start it, though?

  • gay_king_prince_charles [she/her, he/him]
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    8 days ago

    i-think-that r/redscarepod is the funniest place on Reddit, because I find 30 year old men living in Phoenix with no ideology past contrarianism embodying the mannerisms of young New York socialites to be hilarious. Their opinions on cities will make your think 12 square miles of NYC and LA are the only livable spaces in the whole country.

  • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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    8 days ago

    kirby-wave

    I'll probably mature out of it some day. For the time being, I think that among my entire cohort the outlets for the negative energy brought on by everything consist of:

    1. Irony
    2. Consumption
    3. Externalizing violence
    4. Internalizing violence, like substance abuse, SH and worse

    Therefore it's just the least bad coping mechanism that is within reach. The best way forward is to channel the rage into organizing and doing the actions I've spent the last years reading about, but until I reach the point in my life where that makes sense to do I need somewhere to pour the energy. I don't mean to defend irony poisoned brainrot, but I think there's different levels of it, and some are certainly close to benign. Like, I sometimes see something horrible and react with "dudes rock, hell yeah" and cringe at my own detachment. But that's also pretty far away from whatever Red Scare is doing. So I guess you can just be a brain half wormed kinda person? Also I think that retaining the ability to be earnest about it and talk about it goes a long way, which I think fellow irony poisoned folks should try out.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      8 days ago

      Also I think that retaining the ability to be earnest about it and talk about it goes a long way, which I think fellow irony poisoned folks should try out.

      You have more self awareness than the typical "nothing affects me nothing offends me EXCEPT THAT THAT AND THAT" my-hero type aging edgelords, and you have the courage to acknowledge it's a coping strategy and not a personality substitute, so I'm cool with that.

      Show

    • EelBolshevikism [none/use name]
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      8 days ago

      I think to an extent consumption can be more healthy than irony poisoning if what we mean by that is watching a show and ordering a pizza or something

    • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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      8 days ago

      Look just cause Adam had a big black son with Dasha doesn't mean he took any money from Peter Thiel.

      • bortsampson [he/him, any]
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        8 days ago

        You mean Peter Thiel hasn't been paying Adam to not be funny all these years. No wonder Stav left the podcast. Adam really is the worst.

  • Poogona [he/him]
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    8 days ago

    I kinda want to defend cumtown but also I don't think cumtown wants to be defended so I won't

    At least I remember Nick Mullen making jokes about IDF soldiers bravely requesting APCs to clear out orphanages back in like 2017

  • destroyamerica@lemmygrad.ml
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    8 days ago

    yes, I don't mind joking around when you make it clear and don't bring it into a serious discussion, but the worst is when I see someone use it as a weapon against someone in a serious discussion which gets used way too much on this site

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        8 days ago

        Cause I don't have any clue what you're talking about, so clearly it's not something I'm seeing. And I didn't spec into a Poster Type when I registered. It wasn't on my Poster Creation Sheet.

        • FearsomeJoeandmac [he/him, he/him]
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          I just mean is that kind of your style of posting?

          Sorry. Obviously we aren't making a baldurs gate character when we register an account here.