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Oh. That's a lot easier than "dear leader".
Maybe you anarchists are onto something.
CA is an op. Got banned for just saying celebrating the chapo ban was dumb.
It feels like couples therapy, even more hilariously difficult
I thought this sounded like when a parent scolds two siblings for fighting and forces them to make up lol
TFW we grow up watching our parents Marx and Kropotkin fight with each other and our lives interacting as siblings is defined by the trauma of witnessing all of it
its kinda complicated, the short answer is kinda,
the long answer is that its more about irony and post irony as an art form and PCM tends to be the medium. He intentionally makes it impossible to determine his political beliefs and skewers all sides. He is also hyper aware of not being a centrist either. He also unfortunately gives cringe representations of the “Tankie” and “anarcho communist” respectively.
if its any consolation he said neoliberalism is what the political system of hell is, said israel is an ethno nationalist fascist state, said anarcho capitalist are the most evil of all,
Yeah under all the layers of irony he seems to be some kind of SucDem or Berniecrat or whatever.
Anarchist here - Tankies always seem to have a Lenin quote that absolutely slaps.
Lenin as the ultimate poster is an undeniable fact to all ideologues. Lmao even Jordan Peterson is obsessed with him and his style
Lol he barely even read the Manifesto, which is why Zizek whooped him so hard in their debate that Ole JP ended up in a drug coma.
One point I haven't seen brought up: anarchists and tankies have the best critiques of each others' ideas.
Think of all the bullshit attacks on socialist states that come from all parts of mainstream American politics. Anarchist critiques of socialist states are great because they address the problems inherent with states as hierarchical institutions without getting bogged down in anti-communist Cold War propaganda. They're also more than willing to criticize private institutions, which is almost totally lacking in any other school of thought that is willing to be so critical of states as states (e.g., libertarianism). As for tankies, the best challenges to anarchist thought are (a) "what if some form of state is necessary to defend people against hostile capitalist states?" and (b) "how many of the problems with hierarchical state institutions can be solved if the state is controlled by workers and run for the benefit of workers?" It's not dismissive of anarchism or purposefully ignorant of it (as many other attacks on anarchism are); it's acknowledging and agreeing with much of what anarchists say but arguing that there might be practical limits on the ideas. Both groups are much more honest with each other than any other group is with them.
The "I'm a centrist; I think anarchists and MLs both have some good points" bit is a meme, but it's unironically how I'd like to see government work. Where a state exists, it should be controlled by workers for the benefit of workers, and it should be regularly criticized on anarchist grounds so that it does not grow beyond what's necessary.
anarchists and tankies have the best critiques of each others’ ideas
This is the true meaning of left unity. Not "agree to disagree" but work together to achieve the mutual goals we have (which is most of them at least for a long time) while holding each other accountable, and the breadth of perspective and experiences allows us all to grow stronger and sharpen our edge. Its not about proving one tendency right, or everyone agreeing all the time, but about forging strong solidarity amongst each other so that we can all become the best we can be for the sake of each other
it's as if there's some kind of take by Anarchists...lets call it a "thesis". And then Tankies come out with some counterpoints, Let's call it an "antithesis". And then they merge these two through discussion and action into some kind of "Synthesis" that incorporates the best aspects of both.
There should be some kind of word for this process.
:marx: (since we don't have a Hegel and I don't know any greek dudes who developed the method)
When I say that I want billionaires to not exist, I mostly meant that they will become not-billionaires instead of headless. The latter is reserved for any that just won't give up despite themselves. They're still people, people addicted to gaining money and power. It might be some lib shit, but think of Negan's treatment in The Walking Dead (granted, I don't know what happened in the last few seasons). We should work to make the conditions for such a thing to exist to not exist.
That site seems so bare. Where are the details? Have they only recently started this effort and are just in organizing mode to build size? I see a blog with posts about meetings, a press link, and a donate button. I'm not a bio person and I'm not diabetic but I want this to exist.
https://jh.zoom.us/meeting/register/tJckcuyqrzwiGtDDa2AM2WyQKcj8rXDfRmAw They do monthly meetings. There's not exactly a bunch of corporate funding for biohacking. There are people working on synthesizing other hormones for HRT, as well. https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xw7z4j/hacking-diy-estrogen-hormones-trans-people
As a tankie, I respect the hell out of the fact that Anarchists have largely held onto their revolutionary nature, and that their disagreements with us generally come from a place that I sympathize with. Whereas many other socialist/quasi-Marxist tendencies have veered off into electoralism or nihilism, Anarchists are still out there in their communities trying to form support structures and bring down the fascist state.
Look, I love my beautiful anarchist ideas and all that, but I'll admit we don't hold a candle to tankies when it comes to public transportation infrastructure. Pretty tough to plan a good rail network without some kind of central agency to handle logistics and direct work.
doesn't kropotkin mention the rail system as a way anarchism has succeeded in the conquest of bread? it's been awhile.
He did, arguing that a bunch of different European companies from different countries had managed to create a pretty successful railway system solely through patchwork construction and free agreement rather than centralized direction. Presumably, if you could make a bunch of rail barons listen to reason without the state, why couldn't you make a worker-owned and worker-managed rail group listen to reason as well, and construct the Anarcho Railway?
I say this with love in my heart, but it seems to me like a very optimistic take in what's already a very optimistic book.
"Comrades, are rails not Facsist!?" - Meeting for the establishment of the Orenburg Commune railway
I think in all likelyhood the 'end' result of global communism will be some form of anarchism, but I think the way we'll achieve the global revolution that gets us there is the immortal science of marxism-leninism
This is correct. The end goal of anarchists and Marxists alike is communism- a stateless, classless, society.
If you're both on social media, hit them up. Maybe they regret not getting closer to you.
Today's tankies and anarchists can and will always unite against TERFs :sankara-salute:
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these new emoji are so good
Anarchists, you guys are amazing at always showing up to events and mutual aid. I don't understand how you always have crock pot or two of food to give out to the homeless. Tankies, you are some of the most thoughtful and well read people out there. I can't possibly imagine having to go through the history of communist nations to fully understand what they did as well as their mindset.
I'm an anarchist but my fiancee is a marxist-leninist so I have to say that she's pretty.
But for real, tankies are always meticulous and on point with their theory, they take their education seriously and don't hesitate to point you in the right direction for resources.
Anarchists are necessary for the function of a ML project. Any communist project should operate with abolishing the state as its eventual goal and only anarchists can remind people of that and push towards it. Likewise tankies protect anarchist principles from militant capitalism.
