• GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    He gathered a small band of antislavery men who in the middle of the night dragged five proslavery settlers from their cabins and hacked them to death.

    Chef's kiss

    Edit: The Dollop did a three parter about John Brown and have a lot better takes on the man part 1 part 2 part 3

    • LangdonAlger [any]
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      4 years ago

      This was retribution for murders against abolitionists. Every act of violence John Brown did was a reaction to provocative violence from the slaveholding class.

      Edit: not saying this to correct you, but to justify/defend his actions

      Edit 2: Potawatamie is fun to say, I'm glad he killed people there so I get to say that word more often and because they deserved killing

      • wantonviolins [they/them]M
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        4 years ago

        Sounds like this “John Brown” guy was just as much of a reactionary as the alt-right the way he was reacting so much to things! Guess there is no difference between the extremes. Another slam dunk for horseshoe theory.

    • quartz [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Right, like these nerds come to the same exact conclusion when it comes to a capitalist state versus protestors demanding "defund the police", but their blinders are on too tight to even realize that a state is a monopolization on violence. Feckless bastards

  • GrouchoMarxist [comrade/them,use name]
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    4 years ago

    Holy fuck are they blaming Brown for the civil war? Really? And they lay the death toll at his feet? No considerations for how the alternative was to let slavery happen, instead we should weep over the people who benefitted from said slavery? Fuck this writer

    • Comrade_Crab [any]
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      4 years ago

      And they lay the death toll at his feet?

      This columnist has a bright future ahead in the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation

    • VILenin [he/him]M
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      4 years ago

      Material conditions? What’s that? It’s all one man’s fault!

  • unabomber [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    violence bad, the slaves should have fought the slaveowners in the marketplace of ideas

  • nobodycares [any]
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    4 years ago

    The Problem with Looking For Lessons in the John Brown story is that his K:D ratio wasn't high enough

  • Shmyt [he/him,any]
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    4 years ago

    Wow, not only is it the worst of takes on John Brown, the shittiest stretch to "just vote guys, police brutality is a weird outlier that can be solved by people who have refused to solve it for decades", but it's also shilling their book that's just a long form version of the same damn thing.

  • Circra [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    The south were so entrenched in slavery they fought a war that there was never any real hope in hell they could have won to preserve it.

    There are and were only two options. 1. Someone kills enough of them to stop them treating human beings as objects to be owned or 2. You let them carry on doing slavery in which case there'd still be slave auctions in the south today. Those are the only two choices.

    I'm not a general or whatever so maybe there was stuff tacitcally or strategically John Brown got wrong but the general idea of murdering and terrorizing slaveowners was absolutely the correct and 100% morally justified decision.

    • quartz [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      His only issue was he didn't have a machine gun

      smdh

      hindsight 20/20

      :doomer:

  • irocktoo [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    As we all know slavery was ended through gentlemanly debate

  • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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    4 years ago

    John Brown killed slavery, launched the Civil War, and laid the seeds of civil rights for non-whites. When a times writer does anything as remotely impressive as that I'll listen to what dribble they have written about him, until then, his soul goes marching on!