Knowing from experience, we'd get the same kind of bullshit if we made posts revolving around "anti-white racism" as well.
Being cautious of white people is absolutely the right attitude. I have white skin, and too many times have I been talking to some white guy who I thought was fairly reasonable until they hit me with some
shit and assume I'll agree because I'm a straight-passing white guy.I 100% don't blame anyone who's sus of me because of my skin
You hit the core of what
people often either can't or won't understand; it's about systems, not individuals.and now that you bring it up i wonder how much liberal capitalitalist hyper individuality and meritocracy contributes to protecting whote supremacy.
Western society does seem specifically designed to slap down all thoughts of analyzing social systems.
To quote /u/BeamBrain
White supremacy is the black hole at the center of liberal thought: not directly observable, but made apparent by how all of their other ideas orbit around it.
and assume I'll agree because I'm a straight-passing white guy.
It’s crazy just how true this is. And this is especially so when you’re a very generic NPC-looking white guy to boot. Nearly all chuds just assume if you look like them you think like them. It’s like, hey, you’re a white guy so you get tons of privilege, why would you ever want that to end?
my appearance is very much "basic white guy" jeans, T-shirt, and flannel most of the time. I've been talking to guys that I've worked with for months, long enough for me to start thinking "ok, sure maybe they're your average"nonpolitical" guys who don't bother with politics because they think it doesn't really affect them, maybe I can push some union ideas, stuff like that", then they heard something on the radio and start ranting about "alphabet people" and "groomers" all while my bi ass is standing there :im-in-danger: and I start thinking about a career change
If you're born into the category of straight-looking white dude then your entire life in 'polite' society is one long game of Secret Hitler
I'm trying to remember the name of a multiplayer game that supposedly did their own flypaper test a few years back. Allegedly they had a right-wing dogwhistle as one of their preset report-abusive-user reasons. But instead of banning players that reason was used against, it was used to build up a database of players who frequently abused the report-user function and used that specific reason frequently - and they got the ban en masse. This is only half-remembered from some /r/technology post I read a few years back so it may not have happened at all. But if it really did, I'd love to know the name of the game.
League of legends (at least I think it was them) had a "report for being unskilled at the game" option that had no effect except for making the system start to ignore reports from whoever used it
I have no idea what game you're thinking of, but if you remember I'd love to know too because it's even funnier than this
100% we would. (And damn I forgot how hard we were going off in that thread, but Erika most of all.)
We had one like that super early on around settlers, nearish to the pronoun struggle if memory serves
I wasn't early enough to witness this so-called "pronoun struggle," but if any receipts exist, I'd love to see. I haven't committed enough masochism lately.
Tbh in a lot of ways those early sessions were basically a relitigation of the chapo-stupidpol split on reddit. Very similar vibes.
I don’t have any receipts but I remember a lot of JAQing lol I made a post parodying that stuff at the time
I feel like the misogyny really tends to come out most whenever there's a discussion around cishet dating, which is interesting. Cishet dating seems like a mess, but I think it's something that goes unexamined maybe because of how personal it is to those involved.
Cishet dating threads are uninteresting to queer people so I think the cishet brainworms can spread mostly unchallenged in there
Okay I love the term "flypaper session". Seconding the motion to both keep that nomenclature and to deploy these sessions every so often. I feel these could be teachable moments.
I love when I don't log on for a couple days and I can sit out the latest struggle session
A hot new takeaway for me from this is that while "I haven't seen a lot of misogyny on this site" may just indicate a professional
, it may also indicate a fly for the flypaper.In my case, I touch grass but I'm kinda dense so sometimes lib brain rot goes over my head until later.
I’m not gonna lie, I’m like three seconds from leaving this site forever over this bullshit. It’s getting old. I don’t care if it was useful as a trap or whatever. It shows that we still have shitheads in the walls; All of it makes me uncomfortable. Just fucking take care of this shit without exposing me to the nonsense.
You get rid of misogynists by purging them and/or by making them do self crit. No space is naturally racist/sexist/misogynist free.
The post about the planned action for the misogyny was just an announcement post, some mods did mention making honeypot posts to catch misogynists but the banned users pretty much just decided to go mask off at any mention of misogyny after that post
you know what this current purge reminds me of? the downvote struggle session which led to the transphobe purge, it started normal we some small mod action to get the people downvoting trans posts to stop and then led to a bunch of people going mask off transphobic and admins doing a big purge
overall i think its a good idea, and like the great transphobe purge made the site culture better i think this one will have the same results
I think I have missed every single creepy relationship/incel struggle session because I was doing yard work. This is a great motivator to continue doing yard work so I can continue not seeing creepy incel shit on my leftist social media website. Or at least see them after the mods have already banned all the incels.
there was a post about misandry and it smelled of bullshit and i didnt read further. apparently it was a hoot.
i think that's what happened.
Please read the thread, especially AcidSmileys top comment. This isn't a 'haha hexbear turns anything into a struggle sesh' struggle but a struggle session in the legitimate sense of okay, a significant portion of the user base should reflect and self crit. Afaict the mods didn't intend for it to be first and foremost a flashpoint for people to tell on themselves but that's how it's ended up
oh yeah, i dont mean that it wasnt serious. i just mean that the whole post smelled, so i didnt dive into it. i dont even remember the sequence of events. was the post about misandry the one that was like "reverse racism", or was that the reaction to a post i didnt even see?
Ah k. I don't know the sequence either cos of timezone weirdness. I think the mod post us in response to a number of posts in recent months that have been either misogynistic or the comment section has devolved into misogyny, which may or may not include the misandry kne you're talking about (many example posts are discussed at length in the mod thread, I won't re-link here). The mod post about coming down harder on that behaviour is a response to that. Maybe nkt for yourself then but for the players at home this isnt
please read the post
I missed something, what happened? Were Hexbears not being cool commies? Being cool is like the number one rule of being a leftie internet dork. Ya gotta be cool.
Damn that sucks. There tons of ways of talk about negative experiences and stuff without being a lib, shame they did not. Bummer.
noo i missed a misandry post i need to find how bad the site is outside the news mega...
