https://xcancel.com/PineCellar/status/1845912988047274386
Complaining about LGBT people at a renaissance fair is on par with complaining that Star Trek is "too woke" or that Rage Against the Machine is "too political".
"Ren faire used to be cool but now it's woke" is like 2 degrees away of saying that about Pride. One thing I've genuinely liked about comic conventions and and ren faires is that it always felt like a safe space for the queer community. This is just straight up nonsense.
Me with Dungeons and Dragons. When I first met a aggressively homphobic DnD player, I was generally shocked they existed. My queer, DnD, and kink groups were just short of being represented as a single-circle Venn diagram.
In my longest running DnD group, I was the only straight person. I'm getting ready to start a new group and I think it's closer to a 50/50 split. My wife and her friend are both bi but I donno about the dm or the other 2(?) players.
They already say that about pride, don't they? They don't say it is "woke" but basically say that pride was "better" when it wasn't about all that gay stuff.
Most of the people I play tabletop with are gay, trans, bi..some or whom I met at a convention. This tracks.
I mentioned my longtime DnD group in the other comment. I was the only straight person. But I've played DnD with bi, gay, lesbian, trans, and even furries lol. We only turned away one person that was part of a sort of open relationship quasi poly thing a gay couple we are longtime friends with because he started hitting on my wife both in and out of character.
Letting jocks into nerd spaces and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
I unironically think that if nerd culture did unpack some of its own biases and ethics back in the 90s before Xbox, the Gamergate backlash would have been much smaller if not winnable.
Letting jocks into nerd spaces and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
Now the jocks through osmosis are becoming seething incels otakus and the seething incel otakus have been pushed all the way to blood and soil christo-fascists.
flaviusvalens @flaviusvalens1 Oct 14
Replying to @PineCellar
The Ren Faire, where women are walking around with their tits hanging halfway out of their corsets, is no longer family friendly. Wow
I was going to say too, I remember going to one in middle school and the women there weren't wearing much and a teenage boy me was like
I was going to say something similar, and typed it out, but then realized I’m just hornyposting.
Definitely seems to be filled with them every time I’ve gone.
Even many years ago when I was straight and conservative the REASON I didn't go to ren faires was because I thought they were gay. Now that I'm queer I know FOR SURE they're definitely gay as hell and that's awesome.
This tweet has the same energy as the guy who thought rollerblading was somehow straighter than biking.
Never really thought about it before but everyone I've ever known who was into them was either a theater kid or very gay or both
You don't need to say "theater kid" twice.
We know what we are, it's why we're in theater.
Idk I just remember my parents taking me to one when I was young and I got really upset when they wouldn't buy me a crossbow but like they still made me pose for pictures. So somewhere there's a photo of like 8yo me crying in front of a camel
I've never really understood the Ren fair. Like, is it historical reinaction of what Victorian people thought mideval people were like or is it just kind of an anachronist fantasy setting free for all?
It was invented in the 1960s by a teacher for her classroom, and then she hosted a bigger one for a radio station fundraiser, and people liked playing pretendsies so they sort of took off. They've always been pretty queer events (in that anything camp is going to be queer). The whole vibe of a Ren Faire is to just do it up anachronistic style or dress up like a fairy tale. You get drunk, browse handmade semi-medieval wares (sometimes it's fairy wings) and have fun looking at the people in elaborate costumes
It's having fun with medieval flavored clothes and furnishings and food
Okay, but like what got this off the ground? It just seems really all over the place. Not like it doesn't seem fun, I think my history nerd is just rubbing up against it.
The total lack of historical specificity means that people who want dragons or pirates or fancy dresses or Robin Hood or whatever can all go to the same place, and by pooling all of them it ends up being enough people to actually put something together.
You get to see someone blow glass, eat a turkey leg, buy a wizard staff and a dragon puppet, and see a knife thrower and then Romeo and Juliet back to back.
It's essentially a costume fair with a medieval flavored theme.
You will see any types of costumes there, but with a bias towards the theme. There are also medieval flavored events and performances.
Queer people didnt exist before 2016, sometimes I forget as well!
Can't go to panto anymore because of the woke dame!
(I assume more conservatives would be into theater, teaching etc. if they didn't shit on the professions/spaces all the time. Not that that would make those spaces at all better, but why would anyone be surprised that a political movement that hates thing does not have much of that political movement in it?)
lfg!
