You dumbass we don't have downvotes, we're going to tell you en masse that we hate you for being a Nazi (and then you'll end up banned)
honestly if you support Trump
Nobody here supports Trump
you either haven’t been paying attention or you aren’t just an idiot
Ironic
you’re a fascist idiot.
You're going to vote to continue a genocide in a short while, why don't you shut your filthy mouth you genocidal crybully coward?
There's nothing in this world lower than you, supporting the mass externination of a people, of a million children while acting like anyone who criticizes you is an evil irrational child.
People like you are going to drive me back to Christianity because I need to believe that there is a hell for genocide supporters.
The mental gymnastics you’re doing to paint me as a genocide supporter is baffling.
I am against all war, all killing, but I’m a nobody and can’t fix any of this. I can only point out that a vote for 3rd party candidates are almost a wasted vote in todays political climate, and allowing Trump in office will be a worse outcome than Harris
you are EXPLICITLY voting for a candidate who has STATED SHE WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPLY ARMS TO A GENOCIDE. you support genocide. you just don't like how that feels.
If we had a third option that had an actual chance at winning I would be singing their praises and campaigning hardcore for them. Unfortunately if it’s not Red or Blue most of the population doesn’t pay attention.
You're trying to get people to vote for the administration currently committing genocide.
You're going to bubble in Harris, not "not Trump," so say it with your whole chest you cowardly fascist.
You want people to vote for little girls like Hind Rajab to sit in cars with their dead parents and siblings in terror until bullets that you also voted for kill her.
You're voting for the systematicremoved of Palestinian hostages.
You're voting for young men to burn to death on their hospital beds.
You're voting for men to be buried alive in mass graves.
You're voting for schools and hospitals to be bombed.
You're voting for children to be deliberately starved to death.
You're voting for bulldozers to run over living men women and children.
It has been going on here in America since before the country was founded motherfucker. Look up wounded knee then shut the fuck up forever I am done with you.
you don't want genocide to start in America? It's already here and its' been ongoing for centuries, what the fuck are you talking about
Every time one of your kind talks like this it sounds like you mean "genocide for middle class white liberals." Try and look inside yourself and ask what's already happening or has happened to the most vulnerable groups here in America. Look inside yourself and ask what you're actually afraid of happening, and what you're doing about it. If you're worried about queer people, bipoc folk, Native Americans, Muslims, refugees, whoever, they're already in dire straits and it's been this way for hundreds of years, and it happens no matter which president in is power. The only fight against it comes from mass organizing in spite of whoever the president is
try and ask yourself why you think Kamala Harris, who is currently committing genocidal actions, would not extend these genocidal tendencies towards our existing vulnerable populations. Why would you trust a genocidal imperialist at her word? Do you think America will be the first empire in history that keeps its violence external? Did we solve Foucault's boomerang? That's already not the case, the external violence is already here. Go do some work at a shelter, join an org, get on the ground and do some fucking mutual aid and stop patronizing people over bubbles on a piece of paper. Some of us would rather not offer ceremonial support to a literal imperialist arms dealer which the hope that maybe, maybe she'll be less murderous than the other one.
like why would you ever put any amount of trust in this plan that Harris will sacrifice Palestinians for the sake of vulnerable Americans. Why do you think she'd even be a different administrator than Trump? It's already shown to be false, can't you see that? The Biden administration has been exactly like the previous Trump administration. There's no fundamental difference other than Biden is less funny.
Do I want the genocide to end? Fuck yeah I do, but I also don’t want it to start here in America.
Western chauvinist idiot. America was founded on genocide and it has not stopped! But I'm sure as oblivious to the genocide of indigenous american people as you are of Palestinians
Hey, what party did you vote for? Hey hey real quick, what party? Why be vague about it? Weird that you're so vague, when you've been so open and honest otherwise.
Do I want the genocide to end? Fuck yeah I do, but I also don’t want it to start here in America.
Ah I see, you belong to the "fuck you, got mine" ideology. Glad you can at least approach honesty.
You obviously do not give a shit about the genocide. If you did then you'd not argue for Kamala. Saying stuff is real easy. That's how it always is with you types. "Oh I support the cause" Yeah now do something "uhhh no uhhh actually uhh that might impact me uhhh" you're a worm.
So your county is 100% going to Trump, in which case what was the whole point of you wasting time here lmao. You know how a dictator would have elections but you could only vote for the dictator. That's (probably) your state right now. You can vote for whoever you want, but the giant (metaphorical) Trump portrait staring down on you while you're at the polls says it all. Harris is going to get BTFO in your county just like Biden was BTFO in 2020 and Clinton was BTFO in 2016.
Is this a thing where because you're de facto disenfranchised in where you're living that you waste so much time and energy online trying to convince online randos to vote for Harris in the hopes that you'll convince some dude living in Michigan or Georgia to vote for Harris instead of "wasting" their vote on a third party?
I thought you were just arguing against trump? Now you're telling us to vote for someone?
I'll have you know I vote in a swing state and I'm voting for Jill Stein
What state do you live in where you have a ballot option for "Not Trump"? Oh, what's this? You're planning to pick "Harris"? But I thought you said you weren't voting for her . . . . Oh! I see, so you're doing the same thing a "real" Harris supporter does but you just are renouncing it in your heart as you tell everyone else to do the same? That's weird, usually the people saying "vote Harris" talk about hating "purity politics," but I can hardly imagine something that better fits that phrase better than imagining that holding an ideal of moral purity in your heart means absolutely anything to identical political actions.
They said as the tried to get people to vote for Harris.
Are you really so stupid you do not realise this, or just kinda stupid enough to think we'd believe an obvious lie?
If you're campaigning against trump, then why are you wasting your time here? Nobody here is arguing that people should vote for Trump.
So you don't want us to vote for Orange Hitler (as if anyone here was going to do that). You also don't want us to vote third party, or abstain from voting. Process of elimination leads to only one conclusion: you want us to vote for K-dolf Hitler.
Oh, yeah, yeah; that's totally different, that's an entirely different matter...
EXCEPT IT'S NOT YOU GODDAMN PECKERWOOD, YOU ARE STILL PENCIL-WHIPPING A GENOCIDER TO SPITE AN (EQUALLY GENOCIDAL) OLD WHITE MAN.
It doesn't matter why you're doing it, it doesn't matter how you try to couch it, your 'campaigning against Trump' still assumes that the only 'correct' option is to vote for the cop that pledged full support for the illegitimate settler colony's pogroms. You nazi fuck I wish we could send civilians to the courts that god willing every Israeli perpetrator will see. You nazi fuck I can smell the Hugo Boss on you and I wish they'd hang you in it.
i don't want anyone in the white house, because the US president is the head blood-priest of a slaughter machine. That's what it is no matter who is in office. The only path to anything we'd like would be complete dismantling of the entire US state apparatus, the economy it functions on, and the balkanization of US land. It should probably balkanize into regional authorities of Native American tribal councils, worker owned communities, given back to Mexico, etc. Who knows how that would shake out.
Honestly I'm probably a bit more lax on the whole electoral thing than most of my hexbear comrades here, like I genuinely don't care about voting in bourgeoise elections and don't think it makes people necessarily complicit in anything, since I don't think the electoral process is attached to any actual levers of authority. It's on the same level as wishing on a star to me, or blowing out birthday candles. Every vote you make in the US outside of very specific regional referendums is pointless, since everything at a federal level has long since been captured by bourgeois interests. And I actually can kinda sympathize with people who'd want to vote for Harris, especially people in my family who suddenly found it a lot harder to get healthcare for instance. Ectopic pregnancies are common in my family for instance, so it is frightening to think our abortion rights are getting stripped. I swear I'm not an ultra though lmao
But at the same time, it just doesn't matter. The stripping of abortion rights happened during a democrat administration. Biden did jack and shit even when a multitude of options are available. Both him and Harris are signing off on continuing weapons shipments to Israel, and Harris seems to stand for nothing other than continued Zionism.
so you should at least try to sympathize why people would simply not care, or would actively dislike both candidates. you should easily be able to understand why literal communists/anarchists would find it distasteful to offer even ceremonial support for the Democratic Party, which is quite literally an organization currently carrying out a genocide and has no signs of ceasing any time soon.
I came here not trying to convince anyone that Harris is good, but that Trump is worse.
You came here trying to get people to vote for kamala, stop this bullshit ffs.
Between that and the fact that Trump is spouting fascist rhetoric, in my opinion, he is worse than Harris.
The fact that you write this after the deluge of responses you've gotten shows you are in no way interested in a good faith discussion.
I read articles just yesterday about Trump talking to Netanyahu almost every day to undermine any talks that may have stopped Israel’s genocide.
"May have" my fucking god. It's always this with you people. "Behind closed doors", "suggested that", "implied that", "in the future might", "could be". When I pretend to throw a ball to fool my dog, it at least stops and looks back at me at some point. At least my dog is smart enough to realise it's been tricked.
Kamala is openly talking about increasing support to Israel. The government has just sent soldiers to Israel, they give them billions. You people keep saying Trump will genocide "worse". There's concentration camps and mass graves right now, it doesn't get much worse. And do you understand what a genocide is? Do you understand what it's purpose is? Extermination. I'm sure the people being murdered will be happy to hear it's at the hands of a POC woman this time.
When Trump bombed syria you were all out on the streets ready to fight the power. Now that Kamala is campaigning on doing more genocide all you can say is "but Trump"! They're the same you massive ingrate
When I pretend to throw a ball to fool my dog, it at least stops and looks back at me at some point. At least my dog is smart enough to realise it's been tricked.
Damn, the lib's gonna need some burn heal for that one!
At the same time you're a silly conspiracy theorist for thinking the people in power with shared interests have secret meetings in dark rooms behind closed doors where they plan what they should do.
I came here not trying to convince anyone that Harris is good, but that Trump is worse.
And you also came in here with a concern troll mindset trying to cudgel people into participating in an electoral process that we fundamentally reject and that is why everyone is telling you to fuck off.
Stop. Just fucking stop. You are insulting all of us and humiliating yourself.
There is zero historical evidence to prove either one of these monsters will be "less bad" than the other. Voting for the lesser evil is still voting for evil. Harris forced trans women into mens prisons, is committed to building Trump's wall, is committed to continuing to arm a genocidal apartheid state in the name of imperialism, is against giving us healthcare, is anti-union, will not protect abortion rights.
All your arguments to vote for her have already been disproven so please just pipe the fuck down and if you want to hang around here stop this electoralism bullshit and start listening to people that know a metric fuckton more about how the world actually works than you clearly do.
If I come across as aggressive it's because I am and we are all sick and tired of hearing all this same shit from liberals.
If I ever start arguing with someone I make a point to let someone else do the banning. If someone just says some outright hateful shit I just ban them right away
Which wing of the capitalist party helms the yankee reich is no concern of mine
Voting for someone who is arming a genocide is support of genocide
Every harris voter has blood on their hands
enlighten me then, how allowing Trump to get into office is the better alternative?
Ah my mistake the current democratic regime hasn't deported more people than Trump, started more wars, increased funding of the police and the MIC, increased tensions with China, banned the import of cheap EVs and solar cells, expanded fracking to hell and back, cracked down on unions, done fuck-all to protect Roe V. Wade as they were warned it would be overturned, just sent 100 soldiers to Israel as the country is putting palestinians in mass graves and concentration camps, proudly come out in favour of states rights as it comes to queer rights, cracked down violently on protesters, and so much more. Silly me.
Trump isn't worse, you people just give a shit when it's the red team in office. As long as it's blue team you can Go Back To Brunch and have Normalcy.
You should be ashamed. Do the world a favour and change yourself into something less polluting.
They both suck equal amounts of shit and if you vote for either of them you are actively making them suck more by way of validating them in the knowledge that sucking shit is cool and good.
Please enlighten me why the democrats would ever get better if they know they can get away with genocide. Somehow I have a feeling that hell will be worse than a senile man, hated by all, shitting himself to death in the oval office. It's what we have currently.
In the least amount of effort (similar to th act of voting really) voting non third party until one of them loses enough times to get sick of FPTP and institute ranked/preference voting models
I can only point out that a vote for 3rd party candidates are almost a wasted vote in todays political climate, and allowing Trump in office will be a worse outcome than Harris
And a vote outside of a swing state is as much of a waste as a third party vote. So why throw away your vote at the pro-genocide candidate?
That's funny, I'm against insulting you, you absolute cretin. You piece of dog shit. You unlovable booger. You emptyhearted hollowheaded ghoul. Fuck your parents for creating you. You are a stain on the collective history of humanity, a black blemish that will forever be an embarassment. Luckily you will be forgotten, but I am sad to have shared the same world with the likes of you. A hole in the ground has more humanity and more value as a creature than you.
You are very clearly for war since you are voting for and arguing that we should vote for a warmongering fascist committing a genocide right now.
"Uhhh but uhh I said I am against it and actually I get kinda sad about it uhh" WHO GIVES A FUCK? YOU ARE DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE GENOCIDE. YOU ARE DIRECTLY SUPPORTING A PARTY THAT IS SPENDING BILLIONS TO FUND SEVERAL WARS GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
and allowing Trump in office will be a worse outcome than Harris.
They are putting people in concentration camps and mass graves right now. Somehow trump will be able to do something that's worse than whatever Kamala will do when the Dems learn that not even genocide is a line too far.
I’m a nobody and can’t fix any of this. I can only point out that a vote for 3rd party candidates are almost a wasted vote in todays political climate.
Okay then if we're nobodies that have no impact then it doesn't matter that Kamala doesn't get the vote.
And jfc "wah wah I can't be the great man of history fixing everything so why even bother." You people are actual babies. Here's a novel concept: Planning for more than the election going on right now. The vote is wasted? As opposed to a vote for genocide which would be well spent I suppose is your argument. Actual insanity. If that were the case then a wasted vote would be better.
Oh no the party won't win a landslide election! Then I guess there's no reason to do anything at all. Are you a sports fan? Do you change your support to whichever team is currently winning?
And finally: Washing your hands like Pontius Pilate.
I hate genocide and that's why I'm voting for the party that's doing all the genocide! I don't know why that extremely obvious contradiction is so hard for you tankies to ignore!
You dumbass we don't have downvotes, we're going to tell you en masse that we hate you for being a Nazi (and then you'll end up banned)
Nobody here supports Trump
Ironic
You're going to vote to continue a genocide in a short while, why don't you shut your filthy mouth you genocidal crybully coward?
There's nothing in this world lower than you, supporting the mass externination of a people, of a million children while acting like anyone who criticizes you is an evil irrational child.
People like you are going to drive me back to Christianity because I need to believe that there is a hell for genocide supporters.
Lol that's a great line, love it. Keep up the good posting
The mental gymnastics you’re doing to paint me as a genocide supporter is baffling.
I am against all war, all killing, but I’m a nobody and can’t fix any of this. I can only point out that a vote for 3rd party candidates are almost a wasted vote in todays political climate, and allowing Trump in office will be a worse outcome than Harris
you are EXPLICITLY voting for a candidate who has STATED SHE WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPLY ARMS TO A GENOCIDE. you support genocide. you just don't like how that feels.
i recommend dying to deal with it.
You're campaigning for a candidate who has signaled full continued support for the genocide you disingenuous Nazi prick.
I’m campaigning against Trump, not for Harris.
If we had a third option that had an actual chance at winning I would be singing their praises and campaigning hardcore for them. Unfortunately if it’s not Red or Blue most of the population doesn’t pay attention.
You're trying to get people to vote for the administration currently committing genocide.
You're going to bubble in Harris, not "not Trump," so say it with your whole chest you cowardly fascist.
You want people to vote for little girls like Hind Rajab to sit in cars with their dead parents and siblings in terror until bullets that you also voted for kill her.
You're voting for the systematicremoved of Palestinian hostages.
You're voting for young men to burn to death on their hospital beds.
You're voting for men to be buried alive in mass graves.
You're voting for schools and hospitals to be bombed.
You're voting for children to be deliberately starved to death.
You're voting for bulldozers to run over living men women and children.
You're voting for the genocide.
I don't care if you say it's for abortion rights.
Where I live, the last several elections have seen every county go Red. It doesn’t even matter how I vote.
That being said I have also voted third party the last few elections.
Do I want the genocide to end? Fuck yeah I do, but I also don’t want it to start here in America.
It has been going on here in America since before the country was founded motherfucker. Look up wounded knee then shut the fuck up forever I am done with you.
you don't want genocide to start in America? It's already here and its' been ongoing for centuries, what the fuck are you talking about
Every time one of your kind talks like this it sounds like you mean "genocide for middle class white liberals." Try and look inside yourself and ask what's already happening or has happened to the most vulnerable groups here in America. Look inside yourself and ask what you're actually afraid of happening, and what you're doing about it. If you're worried about queer people, bipoc folk, Native Americans, Muslims, refugees, whoever, they're already in dire straits and it's been this way for hundreds of years, and it happens no matter which president in is power. The only fight against it comes from mass organizing in spite of whoever the president is
try and ask yourself why you think Kamala Harris, who is currently committing genocidal actions, would not extend these genocidal tendencies towards our existing vulnerable populations. Why would you trust a genocidal imperialist at her word? Do you think America will be the first empire in history that keeps its violence external? Did we solve Foucault's boomerang? That's already not the case, the external violence is already here. Go do some work at a shelter, join an org, get on the ground and do some fucking mutual aid and stop patronizing people over bubbles on a piece of paper. Some of us would rather not offer ceremonial support to a literal imperialist arms dealer which the hope that maybe, maybe she'll be less murderous than the other one.
like why would you ever put any amount of trust in this plan that Harris will sacrifice Palestinians for the sake of vulnerable Americans. Why do you think she'd even be a different administrator than Trump? It's already shown to be false, can't you see that? The Biden administration has been exactly like the previous Trump administration. There's no fundamental difference other than Biden is less funny.
You don't want the genocide to end or you wouldn't be getting on the internet telling people how important voting for more genocide is Adolf.
Ah, the fuck you got mine mentality
Western chauvinist idiot. America was founded on genocide and it has not stopped! But I'm sure as oblivious to the genocide of indigenous american people as you are of Palestinians
There are at least two distinct ongoing genocides in the us, and we're enacting at least two overseas right now.
Hey, what party did you vote for? Hey hey real quick, what party? Why be vague about it? Weird that you're so vague, when you've been so open and honest otherwise.
Ah I see, you belong to the "fuck you, got mine" ideology. Glad you can at least approach honesty.
You obviously do not give a shit about the genocide. If you did then you'd not argue for Kamala. Saying stuff is real easy. That's how it always is with you types. "Oh I support the cause" Yeah now do something "uhhh no uhhh actually uhh that might impact me uhhh" you're a worm.
So your county is 100% going to Trump, in which case what was the whole point of you wasting time here lmao. You know how a dictator would have elections but you could only vote for the dictator. That's (probably) your state right now. You can vote for whoever you want, but the giant (metaphorical) Trump portrait staring down on you while you're at the polls says it all. Harris is going to get BTFO in your county just like Biden was BTFO in 2020 and Clinton was BTFO in 2016.
Is this a thing where because you're de facto disenfranchised in where you're living that you waste so much time and energy online trying to convince online randos to vote for Harris in the hopes that you'll convince some dude living in Michigan or Georgia to vote for Harris instead of "wasting" their vote on a third party?
YOU CRACKER PIECE OF SHIT COPS KILL A THOUSAND OF MY PEOPLE A YEAR. A FUCKING YEAR!!
I hope someone stabs you up in the middle of the street holy shit. Just leave your shit fucking leaking.
WHO ARE YOU ASKING US TO VOTE FOR THEN, YOU NAZI FREAK?
Whoever it takes to keep Trump for winning.
she's electable if you vote for her
Cool, I'm writing in Yahya Sinwar then.
I thought you were just arguing against trump? Now you're telling us to vote for someone?
I'll have you know I vote in a swing state and I'm voting for Jill Stein
Oh wow, so clever!
Disgusting fucking worm
What state do you live in where you have a ballot option for "Not Trump"? Oh, what's this? You're planning to pick "Harris"? But I thought you said you weren't voting for her . . . . Oh! I see, so you're doing the same thing a "real" Harris supporter does but you just are renouncing it in your heart as you tell everyone else to do the same? That's weird, usually the people saying "vote Harris" talk about hating "purity politics," but I can hardly imagine something that better fits that phrase better than imagining that holding an ideal of moral purity in your heart means absolutely anything to identical political actions.
Voting for Harris isn't a vote for Harris, but voting for neither Harris nor Trump is a vote for Trump. Gotta love lib mental gymnastics.
She can win if you vote for her
Lmao do you believe this dumb shit genuinely? Baby brained liberal politics for the simplest minds in America.
Nobody here is voting for Trump, so what are you even doing here?
They said as the tried to get people to vote for Harris.
Are you really so stupid you do not realise this, or just kinda stupid enough to think we'd believe an obvious lie?
If you're campaigning against trump, then why are you wasting your time here? Nobody here is arguing that people should vote for Trump.
So you don't want us to vote for Orange Hitler (as if anyone here was going to do that). You also don't want us to vote third party, or abstain from voting. Process of elimination leads to only one conclusion: you want us to vote for K-dolf Hitler.
Oh, yeah, yeah; that's totally different, that's an entirely different matter...
EXCEPT IT'S NOT YOU GODDAMN PECKERWOOD, YOU ARE STILL PENCIL-WHIPPING A GENOCIDER TO SPITE AN (EQUALLY GENOCIDAL) OLD WHITE MAN.
It doesn't matter why you're doing it, it doesn't matter how you try to couch it, your 'campaigning against Trump' still assumes that the only 'correct' option is to vote for the cop that pledged full support for the illegitimate settler colony's pogroms. You nazi fuck I wish we could send civilians to the courts that god willing every Israeli perpetrator will see. You nazi fuck I can smell the Hugo Boss on you and I wish they'd hang you in it.
The incredible mental gymnastics of pointing out you are voting for someone who is currently supporting a genocide
Liberals are truly the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet
Please, enlighten me then, how allowing Trump to get into office is the better alternative?
Oh, you don’t support Red or Blue?
Tell me how we get someone that’s not either of these fucks into the White House?
i don't want anyone in the white house, because the US president is the head blood-priest of a slaughter machine. That's what it is no matter who is in office. The only path to anything we'd like would be complete dismantling of the entire US state apparatus, the economy it functions on, and the balkanization of US land. It should probably balkanize into regional authorities of Native American tribal councils, worker owned communities, given back to Mexico, etc. Who knows how that would shake out.
Honestly I'm probably a bit more lax on the whole electoral thing than most of my hexbear comrades here, like I genuinely don't care about voting in bourgeoise elections and don't think it makes people necessarily complicit in anything, since I don't think the electoral process is attached to any actual levers of authority. It's on the same level as wishing on a star to me, or blowing out birthday candles. Every vote you make in the US outside of very specific regional referendums is pointless, since everything at a federal level has long since been captured by bourgeois interests. And I actually can kinda sympathize with people who'd want to vote for Harris, especially people in my family who suddenly found it a lot harder to get healthcare for instance. Ectopic pregnancies are common in my family for instance, so it is frightening to think our abortion rights are getting stripped. I swear I'm not an ultra though lmao
But at the same time, it just doesn't matter. The stripping of abortion rights happened during a democrat administration. Biden did jack and shit even when a multitude of options are available. Both him and Harris are signing off on continuing weapons shipments to Israel, and Harris seems to stand for nothing other than continued Zionism.
so you should at least try to sympathize why people would simply not care, or would actively dislike both candidates. you should easily be able to understand why literal communists/anarchists would find it distasteful to offer even ceremonial support for the Democratic Party, which is quite literally an organization currently carrying out a genocide and has no signs of ceasing any time soon.
Thank you for taking the time to write that.
I generally agree the current system is broken, both sides have no interest in doing what’s best for humans.
I came here not trying to convince anyone that Harris is good, but that Trump is worse.
I read articles just yesterday about Trump talking to Netanyahu almost every day to undermine any talks that may have stopped Israel’s genocide.
Between that and the fact that Trump is spouting fascist rhetoric, in my opinion, he is worse than Harris.
You came here trying to get people to vote for kamala, stop this bullshit ffs.
The fact that you write this after the deluge of responses you've gotten shows you are in no way interested in a good faith discussion.
"May have" my fucking god. It's always this with you people. "Behind closed doors", "suggested that", "implied that", "in the future might", "could be". When I pretend to throw a ball to fool my dog, it at least stops and looks back at me at some point. At least my dog is smart enough to realise it's been tricked.
Kamala is openly talking about increasing support to Israel. The government has just sent soldiers to Israel, they give them billions. You people keep saying Trump will genocide "worse". There's concentration camps and mass graves right now, it doesn't get much worse. And do you understand what a genocide is? Do you understand what it's purpose is? Extermination. I'm sure the people being murdered will be happy to hear it's at the hands of a POC woman this time.
When Trump bombed syria you were all out on the streets ready to fight the power. Now that Kamala is campaigning on doing more genocide all you can say is "but Trump"! They're the same you massive ingrate
Damn, the lib's gonna need some burn heal for that one!
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At the same time you're a silly conspiracy theorist for thinking the people in power with shared interests have secret meetings in dark rooms behind closed doors where they plan what they should do.
None of this changes the undeniable fact that if you give your vote to Kamala Harris you are endorsing genocide.
That's what it all boils down to. You can't wriggle your way out of this.
And you also came in here with a concern troll mindset trying to cudgel people into participating in an electoral process that we fundamentally reject and that is why everyone is telling you to fuck off.
Stop. Just fucking stop. You are insulting all of us and humiliating yourself.
There is zero historical evidence to prove either one of these monsters will be "less bad" than the other. Voting for the lesser evil is still voting for evil. Harris forced trans women into mens prisons, is committed to building Trump's wall, is committed to continuing to arm a genocidal apartheid state in the name of imperialism, is against giving us healthcare, is anti-union, will not protect abortion rights.
All your arguments to vote for her have already been disproven so please just pipe the fuck down and if you want to hang around here stop this electoralism bullshit and start listening to people that know a metric fuckton more about how the world actually works than you clearly do.
If I come across as aggressive it's because I am and we are all sick and tired of hearing all this same shit from liberals.
It must be fun being a mod so you can ensure you always get the last word, if you ever need to.
I would not be responsible with a thread like this
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If I ever start arguing with someone I make a point to let someone else do the banning. If someone just says some outright hateful shit I just ban them right away
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Which wing of the capitalist party helms the yankee reich is no concern of mine
Voting for someone who is arming a genocide is support of genocide
Every harris voter has blood on their hands
Join an org.
Ah my mistake the current democratic regime hasn't deported more people than Trump, started more wars, increased funding of the police and the MIC, increased tensions with China, banned the import of cheap EVs and solar cells, expanded fracking to hell and back, cracked down on unions, done fuck-all to protect Roe V. Wade as they were warned it would be overturned, just sent 100 soldiers to Israel as the country is putting palestinians in mass graves and concentration camps, proudly come out in favour of states rights as it comes to queer rights, cracked down violently on protesters, and so much more. Silly me.
Trump isn't worse, you people just give a shit when it's the red team in office. As long as it's blue team you can Go Back To Brunch and have Normalcy.
You should be ashamed. Do the world a favour and change yourself into something less polluting.
They both suck equal amounts of shit and if you vote for either of them you are actively making them suck more by way of validating them in the knowledge that sucking shit is cool and good.
Please enlighten me why the democrats would ever get better if they know they can get away with genocide. Somehow I have a feeling that hell will be worse than a senile man, hated by all, shitting himself to death in the oval office. It's what we have currently.
Political power grows out the barrel of a gun.
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In the least amount of effort (similar to th act of voting really) voting non third party until one of them loses enough times to get sick of FPTP and institute ranked/preference voting models
Here's our plan for the white house, hope it helps clear things up for you;
"And so I will throw my support behind a candidate who could be in a position to fix it and instead uses that position to commit genocide"
Get your head out your ass, you genocidal fuck
And a vote outside of a swing state is as much of a waste as a third party vote. So why throw away your vote at the pro-genocide candidate?
That's funny, I'm against insulting you, you absolute cretin. You piece of dog shit. You unlovable booger. You emptyhearted hollowheaded ghoul. Fuck your parents for creating you. You are a stain on the collective history of humanity, a black blemish that will forever be an embarassment. Luckily you will be forgotten, but I am sad to have shared the same world with the likes of you. A hole in the ground has more humanity and more value as a creature than you.
You are very clearly for war since you are voting for and arguing that we should vote for a warmongering fascist committing a genocide right now.
"Uhhh but uhh I said I am against it and actually I get kinda sad about it uhh" WHO GIVES A FUCK? YOU ARE DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE GENOCIDE. YOU ARE DIRECTLY SUPPORTING A PARTY THAT IS SPENDING BILLIONS TO FUND SEVERAL WARS GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
They are putting people in concentration camps and mass graves right now. Somehow trump will be able to do something that's worse than whatever Kamala will do when the Dems learn that not even genocide is a line too far.
Okay then if we're nobodies that have no impact then it doesn't matter that Kamala doesn't get the vote.
And jfc "wah wah I can't be the great man of history fixing everything so why even bother." You people are actual babies. Here's a novel concept: Planning for more than the election going on right now. The vote is wasted? As opposed to a vote for genocide which would be well spent I suppose is your argument. Actual insanity. If that were the case then a wasted vote would be better.
Oh no the party won't win a landslide election! Then I guess there's no reason to do anything at all. Are you a sports fan? Do you change your support to whichever team is currently winning?
And finally: Washing your hands like Pontius Pilate.
I hate genocide and that's why I'm voting for the party that's doing all the genocide! I don't know why that extremely obvious contradiction is so hard for you tankies to ignore!
You're wrong , you aren't against war or killing cause you support those things. Also Trump won't be worse than Kamala.
Fucking scum