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  • the_river_cass [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    I actually don't know much about this subject - furries use neopronouns? or do you mean identity markers like a trans girl might call herself a cat girl?

    • Mencoh [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      That's what I'm genuinely asking. Someone could enlighten me a lot by simply explaining, but instead I'm just getting drive-by downvotes. It's such a stupid fucking hivemind feature of a website for people that base their entire identity around going against harmful norms.

      What are the cat-based preferential pronouns? They sound like furries to me, and lately I've seen furries on the main page posting comics and asking for space.

      A counterargument could be TERF-minded people trying to be "clever" by provoking cat-based pronouns, though that's something that could be explained to me.

      • the_river_cass [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        oh, I thought you were saying something else. cat/girl might be someone's pronouns - it was an ask by someone who got banned not long after and I think people just felt better about including it just in case. it doesn't have anything to do with furries, it's purely a terminally online, very young, trans woman thing.

        • Mencoh [none/use name]
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          Then why not include them? Again, furries don't harm anyone and it's their identity. I'm asking genuinely, though I'm extremely cis and vanilla and don't really venture into these communities much.

          The only explanation I can think of is that this community is mindful of some stigmas while encouraging other stigmas, like hypocrites.

          • the_river_cass [she/her]
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            the broader community wasn't happy with their inclusion and there was no user request to back it up. also, it's generally meant as an identity, not as pronouns so if that's the way it was meant, it doesn't belong with the pronouns. given how mad people already are about pronouns, I'd prefer we stuck to a set that are actually used as pronouns so no one gets in the habit of ignoring anyone's.

            • Mencoh [none/use name]
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              the broader community wasn’t happy with their inclusion and there was no user request to back it up. also, it’s generally meant as an identity, not as pronouns so if that’s the way it was meant, it doesn’t belong with the pronouns. given how mad people already are about pronouns, I’d prefer we stuck to a set that are actually used as pronouns so no one gets in the habit of ignoring anyone’s.

              It sounds like the broader community of Chapo.chat is kind of prejudiced then and just as susceptible to normie stigmas. I'm just going to be honest: I think furry stuff is kind of gross. But it doesn't hurt anyone, so why should I not respect them the same as I respect trans people? Or gay people? What's different in the end when it comes to just allowing a human being to be happy? They don't have to care about my personal feelings, and I don't have to be furry if I don't like it.

            • Mencoh [none/use name]
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              4 years ago

              Can you please, for the love of God, try explaining to someone who is genuinely asking instead of these little cutesy one-liners?

              Look at my post history, I've been here almost half a year. I am not a TERF or a chud or some bad-faith arguer. There are genuine furries on the site I've seen, so why not allow their pronouns? Who are you harming by accepting this?

              • the_river_cass [she/her]
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                4 years ago

                different groups that sometimes overlap. this was a request from a subsequently banned trans user, not a furry.

              • russianattack [he/him]
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                a furry doesn't tell their boss to refer to them as a catgirl. it's something they do at a convention or in the bedroom. i'm not going to type out paragraphs delineating the difference between trans people and furries, sorry

                • Mencoh [none/use name]
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                  4 years ago

                  a furry doesn’t tell their boss to refer to them as a catgirl. it’s something they do at a convention or in the bedroom.

                  Doesn't it make them even less controversial of an issue then?

                  • russianattack [he/him]
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                    dude what the fuck? you'd have to add an adjective for every single pasttime in the world it's nonsense just stop