What do you U mean it doesn't add up?
People are been pretty vocal about not liking either party
Third election cycle in a row with historically unpopular candidates
libs: And I'm supposed to believe millions of people sat this election out?
Don't worry, for every three million Trump voters we pick up in the suburbs we'll only lose eighteen million Democrats in the city.
According to that graph that was posted, it was like 5% of Republican voters, which is at most 4-5 million in the entire country lol
It was obvious in Trump country that enthusiasm had waned. Nobody here seemed to care. Or maybe they couldn’t afford all the flags and hats and other Trump merch this time.
It was also obvious that the Democrats were going to lose votes. 15 million is a downright Clintonian achievement, though.
It’s so strange that Dick Cheney’s endorsement didn’t drive Democrats to the polls.
Trumpers were absolutely less frothing this time around. I remember seeing all sorts of fucked up shit in rural areas in 2016 & 2020. I'm talking a literal Trump shrine, a stuffed Obama lynching, Trump signs with light displays, giant pictures of Trump's face, and TRUMP painted in massive letters on the side of barns. Nothing like that this time, outside of big signs.
Idk anyone under 35 who admitted to wanting to vote for Harris. Some probably did, but at best a majority of them were on the fence about whether to vote for her or a 3rd party.
Clinton in 2016 depressed turnout among the base and independents, Harris ran a base destruction campaign.
But I was assured the democrats needed to reach across the aisle to secure the non-existant “republican with decency” vote?
I'm in middle of nowhere northern minnesota and I think it was more enthusiastic than ever. I saw huge banners on RVs parked in front yards, trucks driving around blasting that rich men north of Richmond song (multiple occasions) three opportunist moms for liberty dorks running for the school board, Trump hats, and way more Trump signs than I saw in '16 Even family who has always been lib were quoting trump talking points.
i was surprised at how close MN was. hasn't it been a blue stronghold for....ever?
And we're the only state that doesn't have a democratic party, we have the Democratic-Farmer-Labor party
"I mean it's not like those 15 million voters have been screaming at the top of their lungs they wouldnt vote for a candidate that supported the genocide for nearly two years at this point"
It is extremely generous to assume that 15m Americans give a shit about genocide. Kamala lost because of the economy. Foreign wars was a minor point against her. The American electorate is bloodthirsty and ignorant, they don't vote based on foreign policy unless it directly harms them. Kamala lost this election far more because of inflation and cost of living.
Kamala lost because she absolutely refused to promise any actual positive policies or changes.
Fair point there was also all the other stuff we were screaming about like how pointing toa a graph condescendingly didn't lower grocery bills.
they're gonna be so surprised when the cops give them the pro-Palestine protestor treatment, not the January 6th / Charlottesville rally treatment
Oh please blue Maga Jan 6th involves chanting inside the set up barricades and then leaving ten minutes early to beat traffic, shaking hands with every cop you pass on the way out to really show the chuds what civility looks like. They never reach the steps let alone the building.
Libs turning into election deniers is actually useful for radicalizing them imo
I would give anything for a magic mirror you could hold up to blue Maga to make them realize they are the exact thing they despise.
Reminds me (an old man) of the Jane’s Addiction song “Idiots Rule,” which feels like an anthem for today: “You know the man you hate; you look more like him every day…”
Fed account injecting the next conspiracy into the discourse.
I've been saying for a decade that this account is run by feds and I won't be stopping now.
Wonder if supporting a genocide and material conditions deteriorating, with neither giving hope of betterment, could have made people go apathetic? Just a thought
I love that russia is clearly busy with other shit to the point libs will hopefully be laughed out of the toom if they try this excuse this time.
no, i'm afraid it's russiagate from now on. world and time and russiagate without end.
It really sucks that Rumsfeld died. His endorsement combined with Dick Cheney’s could have really swung this thing for the Dems.
I vote Jeff Tiedrich to be the BlueAnon Shaman
Brooklyn Dad Defiant can be the guy who puts his feet up on someone's desk
If they voted for Biden in 2020 expecting things to get better, why would they vote for the same platform again when they saw everything get worse under his admin? What enthusiasm existed?
It turns out "you have to accept you won't get anything you want and vote for us anyway and then next time we'll give you what you want" actually does only work so many times in a row.
Democrats are Lucy holding the football but they're so fucking bad at politics Charlie brown actually figured out that she was gonna yank the ball away from him again this time.
I think you can enrich the picture by realizing that liberal democracy as a form of governance, in its entirety, is Lucy, and by being satisfied with voting Trump instead of revolting Charlie has yet to realize the football has once again been yanked away.
every referendum in california is either about modifying some procedure that no one cares about (80% for, 20% against) or doing an unquestionably good thing (47% for, 53% against,
)
Well I should point out I could easily see between high hundreds of thousands and over a million Trump people simply dying because A) a lot of them are old B) Covid which they deny and had 4 years to die from it.
I could also see a million or so being disillusioned with Trump, either Q people who thought he'd do different or people who saw something else in him that he didn't live up in his new campaigning. Also a lot easier to just check the box to re-elect the president for a certain amount of Americans who may not even be consistent Republicans but just people who thought he did a good enough job giving them free money during Covid and deserved to continue. So those numbers are if anything low and suggest IMO he probably gained some voters as well between losing people to dying and disillusionment and such.
So then the discussion must go towards those Democratic voters, they must have really alienated them, they must have really lost the enthusiasm and angered them. Sure we can discount a couple million as racists who voted for Biden because he was a white man with ties to anti-busing and crime legislation and KKK leadership but not nearly all of them. There's still a significant chunk, millions and millions you have to account for.
but like, wearing a pussy hat
