All I can say is that for me it is not disappointing. In order to be disappointed one needs to have expectations to begin with, and as apparently one of the very few people who remembers what TC69 was actually like as an admin, I am not disappointed in the least.
I haven't had this much pure anxiety being on this forum for years. It's the only real sense of community I have in this hellworld and this rampaging 'le spork of DOOM' character is handing out bans for annoying her with a random spinner like we're not even fucking people with real feelings. It's horrible. I fucking hate this. But it's a joke to her and the rest of the mods and apparently that's what the real website is. Not us.
to all the ND comrades during this
Editing to reflect that I discovered that apparently those random bans were a bit that people volunteered to take part in.
Edit AGAIN to reflect that they're ALSO banning people who AREN'T volunteering for the bit (e.g. https://hexbear.net/u/usa_suxxx who's just another example of "banned for being mad")!
Yeah the other day I was so annoyed by this shit that I literally had to just walk away and go clean my room to force reset my brain and remember that this is a funny pig poop beanis forum, because otherwise these fuckers were gonna drive me insane
It's just a relief to see that so many people are calling it out. I think for a long time the usual response to overstepping admins/mods has just been head down, pretend it doesn't exist, move on. Toxic, negative peace. It's good that we're actually talking about it now, and that the arbitrary bs "stop disagreeing with me" bans are only fuelling the fire more.
It's the only real sense of community I have in this hellworld
same. I'm trying to build something irl, but it's fucking hard. our son is a senior in high school, we barely stay afloat every month, I don't have the spoons to make plans and hang out and do cool shit.
most days, I barely have the spoons to get done the crucial shit. this place has been such a comfort to visit, with so many people who understand exactly what I'm going through.
And just like that one of the most universally supported and appreciated site rules just becomes a selectively enforced pretext to ban people who complain about this drama they created out of nowhere
The mods seem to have it in their heads that this site is supposed to be more of an org than a forum... can we start with a vote of no confidence in the leadership? Maybe once they give out enough "duration of the shock doctrine" tempbans to people who need to because they're upset at being lied to and treated like children.
Yea this is problematic right here, REgon can make their own damn decisions.
Want to edit before I dip for a few days: TC69 owned up to it, regardless of whether or not I think the ban was warranted my biggest issue was with the anyonymity in the face of a mod/admin team with rogue transphobic and toxic elements, so she deserves props for what I believe is a good step.
Again, logging out, I hope to see this a happier and healthier place in a few days after the energy has subsided, I really love this place and can understand that the good mods and admins have a lot on their hands right now. Love y'all, see you again soon enough
We're getting conspiratorial because yesterday you all made fundamental decisions about the site behind closed doors and then lied about your reasoning.
e: And the only fallout from that seems to be falling on the users and not the mods
There's no sense in acting like we're being unreasonable. You complained about the users being conspiratorial. We are completely justified in this attitude. All I did was remind you why. You're acting like you checked every box such that we're not allowed to feel or act that way anymore. It's condescending.
Especially in the context of whatever plans you had to change the site rolling right along regardless. Is this site the user's or the mod's? Are we extras in your social club?
Welcome back from your 3 year not being a part of this community, by the way. Please don't ban me.
Thank you for the past anti-transphobia stuff, but in nearly every other way you're super annoying, melodramatic and seem to think very highly of yourself to a smug liberal degree. Your posts are so self-important and self-aggrandizing.
I think people are rightly concerned about mods demonstrating pretty awful opinions & transphobia and it not being addressed directly. Banning the people who brought this to attention without directly talking about it is the problem that started all this - opaque mod decisions.
I echo this sentiment. While I do think more people should for a few days (myself 100% included), in the context of shaking faith in a mod team that it is acknowledged includes mods that have harrassed users and expressed transphobic views, this can backfire.
That being said, TC69 did own up to it, which is a good thing as it removes that suspicion, I support this wholeheartedly as a good-faith step towards healing that user/admin relationship.
Alright, see y'all later, I actually mean it this time. I'm gonna finally shut the fuck up like my annoying ass has known I should do for a while now and come back in a few days when I don't have some awful personal shit going on. I know the good mods and admins are going through a ton of shit right now as well (aren't we all?).
Love y'all, hope I come back to a healthier and happier Hexbear.
same, I think ppl including myself have been justifiably concerned, and my "faith" is pretty shaken atm, but this has been too stressful & aggravating for a debate about mod actions on a bear/owl/ppb based communist forum
okay. I think what I'm saying isn't being heard - I've watched the modlogs and it doesn't answer it. I'm gonna let this blow over as I'm getting tired of explaining it though - here's hoping it's fixed whenever I get back
why did you threaten me specifically with a ban then
then I don't know what to tell people other than to take a break
you are not a cop-doctor; you do not need to telepathically sense when someone has posting fatigue and prescribe a medicinal ban, you do not need to deal out revenge timeouts when the mod team's honour is impinged on. Your duties stop at banning actual racist homophobe etc. shit so that it can't take root and noone has to see it. Saying an admin is 'detached' is unbelievably soft and you should be embarrassed if you banned someone for that.
I don't believe many of your 'quotes' were actually posted verbatim by anyone to be honest, but if they were I would include those in the ban notes instead of your current HR epic quips to save on confusion. I wouldn't have brought it up at all if the screenshotted user had been noted to have called you a tankie derogatively.
which one of you did this please
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All I can say is that for me it is not disappointing. In order to be disappointed one needs to have expectations to begin with, and as apparently one of the very few people who remembers what TC69 was actually like as an admin, I am not disappointed in the least.
I haven't had this much pure anxiety being on this forum for years. It's the only real sense of community I have in this hellworld and this rampaging 'le spork of DOOM' character is handing out bans for annoying her with a random spinner like we're not even fucking people with real feelings. It's horrible. I fucking hate this. But it's a joke to her and the rest of the mods and apparently that's what the real website is. Not us.
Editing to reflect that I discovered that apparently those random bans were a bit that people volunteered to take part in.
Edit AGAIN to reflect that they're ALSO banning people who AREN'T volunteering for the bit (e.g. https://hexbear.net/u/usa_suxxx who's just another example of "banned for being mad")!
Yeah the other day I was so annoyed by this shit that I literally had to just walk away and go clean my room to force reset my brain and remember that this is a funny pig poop beanis forum, because otherwise these fuckers were gonna drive me insane
It's just a relief to see that so many people are calling it out. I think for a long time the usual response to overstepping admins/mods has just been head down, pretend it doesn't exist, move on. Toxic, negative peace. It's good that we're actually talking about it now, and that the arbitrary bs "stop disagreeing with me" bans are only fuelling the fire more.
same. I'm trying to build something irl, but it's fucking hard. our son is a senior in high school, we barely stay afloat every month, I don't have the spoons to make plans and hang out and do cool shit.
most days, I barely have the spoons to get done the crucial shit. this place has been such a comfort to visit, with so many people who understand exactly what I'm going through.
it is horrible to watch and I hate it too.
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Keep on speaking from the heart, sister. I've got nothing of value to add but I just want you to know I love you and all my trans comrades.
TC69, the original wrecker
The condescension will continue until moral improves.
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absolutely wild lmao, love too be infantilized on my serious commieposting forum
It gets worse
what the fuck lol who is doing these
I think alaskaball is the only mod on mainI am incorrect, alaskaball is just main enby of main
Sangria (the new admin who joked in the first one of these threads about how arrogant they looked) banned them, and called them a fella.
https://hexbear.net/comment/5618797
We really need to make mod actions public
And just like that one of the most universally supported and appreciated site rules just becomes a selectively enforced pretext to ban people who complain about this drama they created out of nowhere
The mods seem to have it in their heads that this site is supposed to be more of an org than a forum... can we start with a vote of no confidence in the leadership? Maybe once they give out enough "duration of the shock doctrine" tempbans to people who need to
because they're upset at being lied to and treated like children.
Yea this is problematic right here, REgon can make their own damn decisions.
Want to edit before I dip for a few days: TC69 owned up to it, regardless of whether or not I think the ban was warranted my biggest issue was with the anyonymity in the face of a mod/admin team with rogue transphobic and toxic elements, so she deserves props for what I believe is a good step.
Again, logging out, I hope to see this a happier and healthier place in a few days after the energy has subsided, I really love this place and can understand that the good mods and admins have a lot on their hands right now. Love y'all, see you again soon enough
No need for temp bans when mods can instead just advise a user to take some time off
Y'all gotta get this shit sorted now
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We're getting conspiratorial because yesterday you all made fundamental decisions about the site behind closed doors and then lied about your reasoning.
e: And the only fallout from that seems to be falling on the users and not the mods
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There's no sense in acting like we're being unreasonable. You complained about the users being conspiratorial. We are completely justified in this attitude. All I did was remind you why. You're acting like you checked every box such that we're not allowed to feel or act that way anymore. It's condescending.
Especially in the context of whatever plans you had to change the site rolling right along regardless. Is this site the user's or the mod's? Are we extras in your social club?
Welcome back from your 3 year not being a part of this community, by the way. Please don't ban me.
And they keep proving us right.
+REgon, they made very good points around this.
the best thing to do in a tense and stressful situation with emotions running high is to dig the heels in and quadruple down
Thank you for the past anti-transphobia stuff, but in nearly every other way you're super annoying, melodramatic and seem to think very highly of yourself to a smug liberal degree. Your posts are so self-important and self-aggrandizing.
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Genuine question, despite appearances. If you hate the people here so much why even return?
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I think people are rightly concerned about mods demonstrating pretty awful opinions & transphobia and it not being addressed directly. Banning the people who brought this to attention without directly talking about it is the problem that started all this - opaque mod decisions.
I echo this sentiment. While I do think more people should
for a few days (myself 100% included), in the context of shaking faith in a mod team that it is acknowledged includes mods that have harrassed users and expressed transphobic views, this can backfire.
That being said, TC69 did own up to it, which is a good thing as it removes that suspicion, I support this wholeheartedly as a good-faith step towards healing that user/admin relationship.
Alright, see y'all later, I actually mean it this time. I'm gonna finally shut the fuck up like my annoying ass has known I should do for a while now and come back in a few days when I don't have some awful personal shit going on. I know the good mods and admins are going through a ton of shit right now as well (aren't we all?).
Love y'all, hope I come back to a healthier and happier Hexbear.
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neither of those edits address the thing people are mad at tho?
okay. I think what I'm saying isn't being heard - I've watched the modlogs and it doesn't answer it. I'm gonna let this blow over as I'm getting tired of explaining it though - here's hoping it's fixed whenever I get back
could you point out the aggressive elements of my comment please
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why did you threaten me specifically with a ban then
you are not a cop-doctor; you do not need to telepathically sense when someone has posting fatigue and prescribe a medicinal ban, you do not need to deal out revenge timeouts when the mod team's honour is impinged on. Your duties stop at banning actual racist homophobe etc. shit so that it can't take root and noone has to see it. Saying an admin is 'detached' is unbelievably soft and you should be embarrassed if you banned someone for that.
I don't believe many of your 'quotes' were actually posted verbatim by anyone to be honest, but if they were I would include those in the ban notes instead of your current HR epic quips to save on confusion. I wouldn't have brought it up at all if the screenshotted user had been noted to have called you a tankie derogatively.