Clarification:
I totally agree with these people, it's just WHY ARE WE STILL DISCUSSING THIS? LETS GET ON WITH THE BEHEADING PLEASE!
Clarification:
I totally agree with these people, it's just WHY ARE WE STILL DISCUSSING THIS? LETS GET ON WITH THE BEHEADING PLEASE!
As I said before, I'm not against the argument nor these people, it just reminds me of the libs and crypto nazis saying “wow wow wait, before allowing people to not die of preventable diseases, lets be sure the philosophical ground for medicare4all/whatever is totally unflawed”.
Like for fuck sake,
weird, I didn't see any m4a style stuff in that convo, just consideration of our current moment. I guess I would have to have libs living in my head to get this.
EDIT: NM, I see the public policy thing. whatever dude.
EDIT 2: I keep reading this to see the humor. To me this post reads like, "Look at these dumb libs! aren't they stupid for thinking about their political landscape in new ways!"
I'm not shitting on them, I totally agree with what they say; it's just sometimes is weird to read people saying "AHA! Capitalism is evil because of this obscure philosophical thing" and I'm just like "Yeah, OK, that's fine, I realized the system is evil when looking at people suffering for artificial scarcities/wars/etc, but OK".
You know, reading a philosophical work from an old era they talk a lot about complex things all to end up saying "and that's why slavery is bad/women should be considered real people/etc". It's weird to me.
Like why are we still discussing this?
the philosophy isn't what turns you into an anti-capitalist - that's as you said, experiencing the direct harms and coming to understand their causes. but the philosophy is useful in understanding why these harms occur, how to combat them in the present moment, and how to push back against apologists who continue uncritically making these points. it's just people working out theory.
Oh yeah i get what you're saying, I just hadn't thought about that specific comparison yet and it's really fitting.