If you're gonna do a coup, go through with it. Don't do a Prigozhin. You're probably gonna end up being killed or arrested, so you may as well go full on.

These people are such dummies. Completely hollow headed.

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    18 days ago

    Back in the day the fash had to be well organized, because if they weren't and they failed, the commies were gonna win. These days neo liberalism has so thoroughly defeated communism outside of some strongholds that the fash can bumble around without consequences because nobody is there to actually fight them

    • ped_xing [he/him]
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      18 days ago

      Neolibs share Trump's disdain for the people in military but had to feign outrage that he expressed it. Dude probably wanted to phone up some generals a couple weeks ago and get them on his side but thought it would look so tacky to butter them up so close to the big event.

  • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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    18 days ago

    You're probably gonna end up being killed or arrested, so you may as well go full on.

    I spent like 6 months going over leg entanglements and submissions every Saturday one year as a blue belt in BJJ. When I finally went to a tournament that allowed them I fucked it up so bad you'd have thought I saw it from YouTube and didn't bother practicing first. The pressure of the tournament was too much and I lost to somebody I was frankly more athletic than when I started with the upper hand.

    The point being that violence sucks really really bad. It's a lot of pressure and it fucks up your brain bigly permanently. You probably go around dreading the day you planned to do the coup and you have no recourse, you can't tell anyone about it, and it's a big deal that you're doing it. If you're not the government with your monopoly on violence, you're probably in some rinky-dink training facility if you have anything at all, so you don't even have training to fall back on. When you think about how you're probably going to end up being killed or arrested, that's just more adrenaline that makes you do something but probably not something productive. You're liable to start fragging comrades and texting your crush more than you're liable to martyr yourself in order to create an opening that your other terrified comrades have the presence of mind to take advantage of. If you survive the night and the adrenaline fades you'll look around and be like "idk why I texted you, I'm an idiot. Can you post a billion dollar bail for me? I'm in Guantanamo rn."

    If you're not doing a military coup then you need so much popular resistance that you win by virtue of Brownian motion letting someone stumble into a winning position because every other position was taken. And in order to do that you'd have to start by letting the people know they have nothing to lose but their chains so that they'll read Marx. I doubt liberal football-lucy or frothingfash is going to do it. Fash only works because you already have all the power.

    • Mokey2 [none/use name]
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      18 days ago

      Fwiw doing the thing irl infront of people is its own skill that you need to develop, dont give up!

  • tombruzzo [none/use name]
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    18 days ago

    Maybe when you're getting CIA coup money, and everyone you know is getting CIA coup money, you think you're a lot more popular than you actually are

  • Fishroot [none/use name]
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    18 days ago

    you need ideological commitment from the coup doers or the general populace. You also need a degree of social change\degradation to legitimate the commitment. Finally, you need to accept sacrifice during the process.

    Nowadays, mass movements are difficult to come by because people are too atomized and have too much to lose. The irony is the only real change can only come when you are ready to give away your current condition and start dreaming.

    • Redcuban1959 [any]
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      18 days ago

      No, he has the dupport of the Army but lacks any popular support, even members of his own party are against him. I guess Yoon is going to pretend nothing happen lol

      • Assian_Candor [comrade/them]
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        18 days ago

        No offense but support of the army is kind of the only thing that matters. That and the US state dept

        • Redcuban1959 [any]
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          17 days ago

          No offense but support of the army is kind of the only thing that matters. That and the US state dept

          The unions are organizing a general strike. You can only maintain the army's support until the economy collapses and everyone turns against you. This guy is an idiot, and when I say the army supports him, it's more that the army will support him until they can remove him and replace him with one of their own. The South Korean armed forces are full of oportunists who can easily replace Yoon if they get the approval of the US.

          • Assian_Candor [comrade/them]
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            17 days ago

            Looks like the order was lifted after six hours so I don't think he even had the state dept. Just an abject failure. Buh bye loser