• PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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    8 days ago

    Copying a post I just made on Masto

    I'm going to start right off by saying, I am not advocating for anybody to do anything stupid.

    But I feel like we have a very deeply ingrained caution about what some people call "adventurism," or others call "propaganda of the deed." Nobody ever makes the case against it.

    I won't spend too much time reiterating the argument for caution. I think it is reckless for somebody to take it upon themselves to throw kerosene into the fire. To unilaterally commit an act of antagonism which will surely cause blowback.

    But as far as the manifold problems facing the western left go, "too much adventurism" has got to be at the very bottom off the list. There actually is an appetite for vigilante class justice. You can see it in the volcano of catharsis which erupts after events like Trump catching Covid, Shinzo Abe being vaporized, the Billionaire submarine implosion, and now, the assassination of the United Health CEO.

    The proletariat is openly celebrating, while the bourgeois politicians and television news anchors bitterly clutch their pearls. The response to the killing is overwhelmingly positive, and in it, the class lines could not be drawn any more clearly.

    This is NOT an essay titled "The Case for Adventurism." Just a reflection on the changing social climate.

    • MemesAreTheory [he/him, any]
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      7 days ago

      Andreas Malm's book "How to Blow Up a Pipeline" talks about how the climate movement could engage direct action sabotage of infrastructure related to fossil fuel production, and likely be seen as heroes/righteous self-defense by the greater public. That was published before Covid, before ongoing climate collapse worsened faster than people imagined, and before the appalling violence of colonialism made clear as day by the events in Israel.

      The reactions to events you mentioned and reaction to this event give us reason to think Malm was likely right at the time, and that the window for "legitimate target of self-defense" is even wider now. Infrastructure/equipment alone is not not the only legitimate target in the eyes of the public.

  • buh [she/her]
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    8 days ago

    Glad to see he crossed the street safely 🙂

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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      edit-2
      8 days ago

      This was someone who had done this before, or someone completely consigned to their fate after

      The gun never drifts towards the person off to the side who runs off, they don't make a ton of jerky movements, they just stay smoothly locked on

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
    hexagon
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    edit-2
    8 days ago

    This Bluesky post is the source of the video - https://subium.com/profile/falconryfinance.bsky.social/post/3lcitxs2yac27 - two things...

    1. I'm shocked at how gleeful the thread is.

    2. I'm even more shocked that Bluesky hasn't nuked the post. It's been up for 2 hours. And it doesn't even have a content warning.

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    Edit 1

    It's still up and it reads "3 hr" ago.

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    Edit 2

    Goodbye sweet post for you are dead.

    • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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      8 days ago

      Holy shit. OP, posting the now deleted list of executive officers with photographs from the UHC website.

      And then the follow-up of someone putting all the faces and names on the mountain from Mortal Kombat 2 that shows you all the people that you have to fight to win the Mortal Kombat tournament.

    • Bureaucrat [pup/pup's, null/void]
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      8 days ago

      This account seems very cool, threw them a follow. As libbed up as Bluesky is and how easy it makes it to block entire groups of people, I think moments like this can be used to push people in a good direction if you don't have a Stalin profile pic or something else that just makes them shut their brains off.

      Maybe we should make a Bureaucrat Bluesky account.

      • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
        hexagon
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        8 days ago

        Maybe we should make a Bureaucrat Bluesky account.

        The problem is libs over there go insane with joy in blocking/muting. The account would need to be sneaky and be honest but muted yet still edgy enough that the libs are intrigued. I personally don't like memes but an account that posted only memes might be best. Replies would need to be sort of bland. You wouldn't want to trigger the libs innate desire to punch left.

        • Bureaucrat [pup/pup's, null/void]
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          8 days ago

          Considering our recent posts, including from myself, this may not work after all lol. We'd definitely have to tone it down.

          • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
            hexagon
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            8 days ago

            There's Palestinian account at Bluesky who - I assume posts all day - and they can get ~1+K posts for their Gaza posts. But they are surely making a Herculean effort to phrase things in just the right lib-friendly way every single time. We'd somehow have to figure how a way to be edgier than that. But I have no idea how. In "Seinfeld" Elaine has a joke about finding a man by treating him like little squirrel and nobody should make BIG MOVEMENTS!

            Is there even a Goldilocks zone between bland and edgy?

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            Ninja edit

            The Bluesky account - https://subium.com/profile/diplomatofnight.com

            Elaine - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-DJPGexKQ4

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    8 days ago

    Damn, dropped him good

    The way the cops described it, it made it sound like emptied an entire magazine into him

    That was what? Like two shots?

    • TomBombadil [he/him, she/her]
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      8 days ago

      3 casings found. Reports said he had a wound in his leg and back. So maybe 3 shots fired. Two hitting him... Or the third also hit but close enough to the others for initial reports to just say back and leg.

        • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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          edit-2
          8 days ago

          Missed some though, they were found at the scene, full ejected bullets

          Cops plant shit of course, but I don't see why they would in a case like this

          • TomBombadil [he/him, she/her]
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            7 days ago

            That's kinda where I'm at... Video definitely could be him grabbing casings or could be clearing jams. Or both

            I don't trust cops but not sure what better spin they get by saying they found a couple casings they didn't

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
      hexagon
      ·
      8 days ago

      Earlier today I spent at least 15 fucking minutes fucking googling and googling and googling. I went to three fucking corporate media sites (CNN, MSNBC, New York Post). And then - of course - I was fucking forced to disable my adblockers. After all that effort - I ended up scrolling through two vids that were total fucking crap. They only had a few seconds and the rest of it was anchor and/or onscreen text yacking. The New York Post had no vid that I was visible to me. I also went to Youtube to similar results.

      Corporate fucking media will never do it but they need to show entire, unedited vids and then start their tedious fucking explanations that we can skip. Nobody cares. We all want our dessert and fuck the vegetables.

      • mudpuppy [it/its, she/her]
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        8 days ago

        i relate 10000%. i don't even click on corporate media anymore, it's just the laziest photos/videos + censorship + someone telling you the correct liberal way to feel about it. they have absolutely nothing of value, it's slop. "video shows moments before [...]" is the standard now, they show everything except what you really want to see. their only job is to control public opinion, they don't want to show anything that could make us have an original thought.

        • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          8 days ago

          "video shows moments before [...]"

          After watching the first vid - I muted the audio on my PC. God, they are annoying.

          their only job is to control public opinion

          It was just passed the top of the hour so I checked CNN and MSNBC pirate streams. CNN is covering the death. MSNBC is doing what it always does - covering non-breaking news Trump shit that was news yesterday.

          CNN reporter just pulled an Onion and declared - "His wife said they had received some threats. But she didn't know why." Gee, that's a fucking toughie. Why would a American healthcare CEO get death threats?

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
    hexagon
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    8 days ago

    Serious question: What gun was he using?

    Show

    What gun was he using. the greatest argument in the history of forums. locked by a moderator after 12,239 pages of heated debate

    https://subium.com/profile/jtp.bsky.social/post/3lciwrtatc22d

    OP's guess...

    i still think it's just a glock w/ a DIY silencer of some sort

  • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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    8 days ago

    I have seen so many innocent and heroic people die senselessly over the last year that I watched this a dozen times before realizing I was totally unbothered by seeing someone killed.

    Does the ruling class raise that the insensitivity they have foisted upon us is going to blow back against them?

  • Justice@lemmygrad.ml
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    8 days ago

    Gotdamn dude that's awesome

    These evil fucks need daily, minute by minute reminders that they are only human and a small piece of hot lead ends their consciousness just as easy and fast as it does for anyone else

  • Nora@lemmy.ml
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    7 days ago

    Damn dude, shooting someone has to be traumatizing. I hope the shooter is able to recover okay.

    • Woly [any]
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      8 days ago

      Turns out to be a viral marketing campaign