Did people just memory hole the 2020 riots? We had the police running scared and set fire to a pig station FFS.
To be fair while leftists were involved in those protests those crowds were still mostly outraged liberals
That's probably because ideological leftists in America are vastly outnumbered by everything else
That’s true of most places, although admittedly I think that the US is the first place to actively teach communism is evil.
Hmm if only someone wrote about how to deal with this problem
The problem here is worse: there is no left.
Until you have an actual organized movement with a clear strategy and a clear desire to take power to achieve real political goals (not cosplaying as resistance at rallies), none of these spontaneous actions will lead to anything substantive.
Remember, we went from single payer healthcare being on the table, to getting zero concession on healthcare rights during a global fucking pandemic, to no discussion about healthcare issues at all in the most recent election.
The left, if there ever existed one, has been systematically wiped out over the past 8 years. That’s how far things have fallen.
But what happened as a result? Without a sustained and organized movement, the pigs got more money, not less like everyone was demanding.
One anecdotal result is no one wants to be a pig anymore. They have more money, but recruitment numbers are so low that various small towns (my home town for instance) had to shutter their local police departments and the county sheriff had to take over.
I've had two coworkers try to get into police academy since 2020, then rapidly change their mind once they started classes. Now granted this isn't sustainable nor is it really a proper function of society, but it at least put something in the water. It let a huge amount of people realize it's culturally permitted to think of the pigs as scumbag murderers.
Oh, absolutely it wasn't a revolution or anything. But to say nothing is ever attempted is silly. It didn't change much but it did show people that the public can overwhelm police if we work together it wasn't effective but it wasn't pointless imo.
You have to remember also that the left are suppressed with far more force than the right could ever dream of.
A small group of right-wingers were practically escorted into the capitol building on Jan 6, imagine if commies had attempted that.
Better to have tried and failed than spent even more time waiting for the perfect moment. And let's not pretend a lot of people weren't radicalized against cops
It's by design, the left doesn't (seem to) do anything because leftist movements are 20% feds, 50% libs and the remaining 30% have varying flavours of leftist ideologies that tend to not get along long term.
Hexbear wouldn't be such a unique website of gay non denominational anarcho-Stalinists if leftist co-operation was commonplace.
Occupy Wall St had all that momentum absorbed and redirected at a brick wall thanks to the Libs. The Black Panthers were targeted by feds. The BLM protests were fairly prominent and Derek Chauvin got jail time, sure, but cumskins are still getting away with murdering POC and no amount of Democrats kneeling wearing Kente cloths will change that.
Then there are the Palestine protests. The kids are alright, but the Zionists hold both major parties and most media outlets. What can men do against such reckless hate?
Even the libs have an uphill battle. The agreeable parts of their ideology such as feminism, reproductive rights and (some measure of) LGBT acceptance can be undone so easily. They push that boulder up and it just rolls back down but they're unwilling to ever change. They have to appease capital and be civil above winning. For leftists it's not just uphill, it's a sheer cliff that must be scaled. The establishment, the media, the average uneducated rube, the aging ghouls and warmongers, etc etc are all against even Dem Socs, and it's no wonder so many get disillusioned then compromise or burn out. But between the darkness and the dawn there shines a red star.
Or on the flip side people acting like this act of adventurism is productive. The 2020 revolt is instructive that huge masses of Americans can say they want something and then just not do shit to actually achieve that goal. Why anyone else thinks this is different now with huge masses of Americans laughing at the death of a CEO is beyond me. The new CEO of UHC, who they were able to hire in like two days, has already said that this will not change their operations in the slightest. The American government is already quite clear that this will not change anything. Does anyone really believe that this will spur the American public into revolt? Maybe anarchists I guess. Maybe "Marxists" so desperate for anything good that they've strayed into Narodism. Either way it's basically never worked because it circumvents the hard work of organizing people and fighting as a class and not petite bourgeois individuals.
I guess time will tell. I don't think it changed a lot, but I don't think it changed nothing either. We live in a very strange world where the smallest thing can have unexpected consequences. A whole lot of nothing can happen and then suddenly we have a week where everything happens. I have no idea why life can be simultaneously the most yet least predictable thing. It does my head in trying to deal with it sometimes.
That probably makes me sound wishywashy lol.
It feels like nothing because the
release valveDemocratic Party was able to co-opt it into voting for Joe Biden, now he and Kamala lost an election and the same piggie that (explicitly) encouraged unadulterated and premeditated police violence is back in office.So when we say the Left does nothing, it’s because it doesn’t capture the revolutionary energy in any way except chants, marches, and some arson; which if anyone remembers the 2020 riots, there was a weirdo with an umbrella walking around setting fire to things. An organized revolutionary movement could/should have seized the police precinct, escaped with guns and armor, and released all the investigate files, missives and software that the police own.
2020 Uprising was a moment of revolutionary potential, where many things could have happened, but didn’t. They were feet, or yards, away from the White House; Trump was even escorted to shelter like a scared little fascist. So yeah, the potential was there.
I’ll say this. The ruling class reaction has been to shore up their attack dogs through cop cities all over the country (because of race and climate change) they expect this country to catch on fire. So it’s very obvious they are scared of the people. So it’s not nothing.
These people think the libs were the main heads behind the 2020 protests and that the leftist were there just to cause trouble and bring a bad name to the protests.
From what I've heard CHAZ was a failure really. Not to be a doomer.
This. I was meaning the left. Also Australia is just a glorified US military base at this point. Let's not pretend what happens in the US doesn't govern what happens in its vassal states.
It's effectively the 51st state. Look what happened to Whitlam when he tried to close Pine Gap
set fire to a pig station FFS
I thought a right winger from texas did this? Although, collectively, the left still got credit for it in 99% of discourse online.
The left does stuff I promise, but what the left does now has changed, and you'll never stumble into that world. Decades of counter intel work has meant most public orgs are compromised, and what small networks can do is limited, and their priorities will probably not be highly public displays, nor operating with classical marxism lol, orgs like that are high-cost-to-join kinda like more hardcore religions you're living and breathing a different mindset and their version of the eternal science might be uhh, wild to hear about without their own highly cultivated context
I'm not in that world but i've sniffed it and I guess it's just sensible that it's there, it always has been.
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