How did you get this out of my brain. This is like, exactly my thought process as someone that grew up in the 90s (born in the 80s)
IKR? Like, if we can add some examples with each of the statements of the Dems doing that, then I feel this could be a very good and convincing piece for libs on the fence.
I think Republicans use spoilers when there's something somewhat unpopular but it's gonna pass anyways. Like if there are 54 would-be votes for something in the Senate but it's a controversial issue, you can expect a no vote from Collins, Romney, Murkowski so it passes 51-49 and they can look better to their constituency. If it's closer than that, they rotate who votes no, but the three of them never actually block anything
The thing that really burnt this realization into my soul was seeing just how great the Democrats are at politics when it comes to ratfucking the left. They destroyed Bernie's movement masterfully. They aren't bad at politics or wielding power at all, they just don't actually consider the Republicans their enemy.
Yeah, I used to observe the democrats in action and think it was weird that I was so much better at doing political messaging in my own organizing projects. Eventually I realized that their messaging appears to suck because we're not actually pursuing the same goals. I don't know if they tricked me, they changed, or if I deluded myself, but now I have a more developed understanding of class conflict and no longer find them worth paying attention to.
Okay so I'm curious, how self-aware-ly are Libs doing this?
Like is Harris cackling and monologging to herself like Lord Freeza "hahaha! I am intentionally doing this dumb thing to LOSE! Because I secretly want the republicans to win!" Or is it more of a systematic thing?
I’ll stick to Kamala cuz you brought her up.
IMO, they know what to do if they want to win. FDR showed them and was the most successful Democratic president in modern history. successfully. Bernie showed them by getting unprecedented number of people, young and old, rural and urban, to support him - without any institutional backing.
If Kamala wanted to truly, from the bottom of heart, win, above everything else - just like what Trump wants - then she would’ve done what they did. Promised populist policies, and presented herself as anti-establishment and gotten the staff that would support that.
Of course, this would require the DNC to back her up, giving her the kind of support Trump receives - but lets suppose for a moment they also want to just truly win at all costs - if that is what they want above all else, then why wouldn’t they?
This didn’t happen. This never happens. It will never happen. They might gesture towards some populist messaging sometimes (because there are factions within every group) but overall? They don’t want to win like that. They cannot afford to.
So they lose. And they combine their forces to defeat anyone who threatens to win along those lines.
To Democrats, being the Center party, being the neoliberal party, making sure they at some level appear to have some working-class voices, but never allowing them to rise beyond a certain level or amass more than a trivial amount of power, is far more important that “winning”. That is, in my opinion, their role.
Republicans have it easy: "I WANT TO FEED BILLIONAIRES AND HURT TRANS PEOPLE!" and their croud goes wild. :/
Don't forget blaming all problems on immigrants. But I guess even the Democrats do that now so there's little difference there.
When they had a chance to do m4a right and had the votes i recall screaming back at the insanity of the television. the message we were being fed of
bipartisanship
... how important it was for Dems to be ...ugh.... bipartisan, and include Republicans input and help from committees on up.
That was a major foundation crack in my belief in them as a representative party.
Obama campaigned on codifying Roe v. Wade in 2008. Fast forward to Dems controlling the White House, Senate, and House of Reps in 2009, and all of a sudden "it isn't the time."
I mean, ask yourself how many times you've seen Biden and other Dems insist that is very important we have a strong and respectable Republican party in this country?
I think they're in on the game.
Do you remember what Harris's answer was when asked how she would be different from Biden?
spoiler
She said she would appoint a Republican in her cabinet
how self-aware-ly are Libs doing this?
not
they're cucks not psychopaths
Kamala took advice from her brother in law, who is an Uber executive. She worked hard to cozy up to billionaires and involve them in her campaign. Her personal goal was to embed herself into ruling class circles, or possibly curry their favor to keep the Democratic party donor machine running. Everything else was secondary
Conservatives believe in changing the world according to their preferred vision of it and will implement the necessary processes to get there. Libs don't really believe in anything except following established processes in their hollow glorification of the civil society rules based order. This, of course, ends you up at every die hard liberal ideologue doing the conservatives job for them.
I found the image on Twitter. I searched the quote via a search engine and it brought me to a Medium article from 2011.
Well, I say article. It’s just the quote. So I guess that’s the origin? I don’t know. Someone somewhere took it from Medium and made it all “officially”.
I wanna say it's from Listen, Liberal by Thomas Frank. Can't be sure though. Definitely his energy.
