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  • volkvulture [none/use name]
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    every advanced country on Earth has some form of mandatory schooling lol... what are you talking about?

    adult education & deradicalization is only bad if the PRC does it? but the fact that the One Child Policy only applies to Han families in Xinjiang means that cultural genocide is occurring? what are you talking about?

    • anthm17 [he/him]
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      deradicalization

      What percentage of Uyghurs does the Chinese government consider radicalized?

      • SheetsOfLenin [he/him]
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        Regular massive terror attacks in one's country tend to be a sign action is necessary. I'm sure the Chinese imams who support such programs are just puppets, and education is just a ploy by the devious Asiatics of course

        • anthm17 [he/him]
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          Does this trust of the state extend to things like the Patriot act?

          • SheetsOfLenin [he/him]
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            Are you a fucking anarchist lmao? The fact that you'd ask for me to spell out the difference is childish and almost certainly in bad faith.

            'State do thing? Oh really? Have you heard of other state that do other thing'

            You're wasting everyone's time

            • anthm17 [he/him]
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              I don't trust broad counter-terror programs, sorry.

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      every advanced country on Earth has some form of mandatory schooling lol… what are you talking about?

      I'm talking about how attempting to forcibly erase a culture is a crime against humanity.

      • volkvulture [none/use name]
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        any actual proof such things have occurred, or just rabid anti-communist speculation & sensationalism?

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          You wouldn't accept proof because you're a zealot.

            • anthm17 [he/him]
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              Adrian Zenz

              He's not a zealot he's a crank :p

              Massive gulf between believe the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation and being completely uncritical of China's actions.

              • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                No, Adrian Zenz is literally a zealot

                he said that Jews have to accept Christ to be allowed into heaven. Zenz also said that he was sent to Earth by God to destroy Communism. Is that what you want too?

                  • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                    wait, did requiring engravings of knives purchased in these areas start before or after the fundamentalist sectarianism?

                    Hui Muslims also do not completely escape this terrifying inculcation. Which isn’t to say it’s some inherent feature of Islam, obviously not if these groups have co-existed for so long, but we can’t ignore the extent to which a recent narrative of “cultural genocide” gets slathered on these stories.

                    Hui Muslims are socio-linguistically & historically of Chinese descent. And they are also known to have Salafist & extreme sectarian groups moving in and out of these areas in Xinjiang. Hui muslims have been implicated in Heroin rings & moving those drugs to those Uyghur areas.

                    To what extent is Daesh and its outgrowths an encouragement for these groups elsewhere & why was the reporter A. Vltchek found dead under suspicious circumstances in Turkey?

                    Is this global nexus of oil money & militant funding & state surveillance not just a way to encircle China from Central Asia?

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                https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1160094.shtml this is from last year & seems to indicate things are improving from the perspective of government openness & goodwill

                https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47191952 this is also from last year and maybe passes the sniff-test for you here for “East vs. West media bias” maybe not idgaf

                https://www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/china-muslims-work-change-perceptions-after-knife-attacks this is VOA, so it’s definitely tripe, but even it still was giving somewhat of an even-handed & in-depth perspective on the issues at play here in the Obama era

                https://thediplomat.com/2014/10/chinese-salafism-and-the-saudi-connection/ this too gives nuance and offers wider connections to the general state of Islam globally. But it leaves out key connections between the “openness” reforms of Deng’s era & how these have always led to potentially dangerous Western & even extreme theocratic influences into the country