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    • anthm17 [he/him]
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      Adrian Zenz

      He's not a zealot he's a crank :p

      Massive gulf between believe the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation and being completely uncritical of China's actions.

      • volkvulture [none/use name]
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        No, Adrian Zenz is literally a zealot

        he said that Jews have to accept Christ to be allowed into heaven. Zenz also said that he was sent to Earth by God to destroy Communism. Is that what you want too?

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            wait, did requiring engravings of knives purchased in these areas start before or after the fundamentalist sectarianism?

            Hui Muslims also do not completely escape this terrifying inculcation. Which isn’t to say it’s some inherent feature of Islam, obviously not if these groups have co-existed for so long, but we can’t ignore the extent to which a recent narrative of “cultural genocide” gets slathered on these stories.

            Hui Muslims are socio-linguistically & historically of Chinese descent. And they are also known to have Salafist & extreme sectarian groups moving in and out of these areas in Xinjiang. Hui muslims have been implicated in Heroin rings & moving those drugs to those Uyghur areas.

            To what extent is Daesh and its outgrowths an encouragement for these groups elsewhere & why was the reporter A. Vltchek found dead under suspicious circumstances in Turkey?

            Is this global nexus of oil money & militant funding & state surveillance not just a way to encircle China from Central Asia?

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              Hui Muslims are socio-linguistically & historically of Chinese descent. And they are also known to have Salafist & extreme sectarian groups moving in and out of these areas in Xinjiang. Hui muslims have been implicated in Heroin rings & moving those drugs to those Uyghur areas.

              Well damn, better do some collective punishment then.

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                No, that's the thing, Hui muslims are also involved in criminal actions and stoking seditionist sentiment

                You want Daesh in PRC? pretty weird ngl

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                  You want Daesh in PRC? pretty weird ngl

                  Yes, and I want it here too obviously. That's why I'm not demanding Ilhan Omar be sent to a camp.

                  I just love terrorism.

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                    education & economic development are not law enforcement issues in the same way as the United States’ War on Drugs & racist for-profit prison industry.

                    you can parse the lasting social benefits & fundamental uplifting aim of one over the other, i am sure of this.

                    https://www.sbs.com.au/news/china-releases-video-of-uighur-musician-disputing-reported-death

                    the way news & sensationalism & outright lies blend so perfectly into jingoism can’t be ignored. none of us are immune to propaganda, but I think we can comb through most of these claims about PRC and find very little real or irrefutable evidence.

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                    and yes, US has racist extrajudicial Muslim torture camps LOL... I wonder wtf you're actually standing up for here?

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        https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1160094.shtml this is from last year & seems to indicate things are improving from the perspective of government openness & goodwill

        https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47191952 this is also from last year and maybe passes the sniff-test for you here for “East vs. West media bias” maybe not idgaf

        https://www.voanews.com/east-asia-pacific/china-muslims-work-change-perceptions-after-knife-attacks this is VOA, so it’s definitely tripe, but even it still was giving somewhat of an even-handed & in-depth perspective on the issues at play here in the Obama era

        https://thediplomat.com/2014/10/chinese-salafism-and-the-saudi-connection/ this too gives nuance and offers wider connections to the general state of Islam globally. But it leaves out key connections between the “openness” reforms of Deng’s era & how these have always led to potentially dangerous Western & even extreme theocratic influences into the country