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  • volkvulture [none/use name]
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    wait, did requiring engravings of knives purchased in these areas start before or after the fundamentalist sectarianism?

    Hui Muslims also do not completely escape this terrifying inculcation. Which isn’t to say it’s some inherent feature of Islam, obviously not if these groups have co-existed for so long, but we can’t ignore the extent to which a recent narrative of “cultural genocide” gets slathered on these stories.

    Hui Muslims are socio-linguistically & historically of Chinese descent. And they are also known to have Salafist & extreme sectarian groups moving in and out of these areas in Xinjiang. Hui muslims have been implicated in Heroin rings & moving those drugs to those Uyghur areas.

    To what extent is Daesh and its outgrowths an encouragement for these groups elsewhere & why was the reporter A. Vltchek found dead under suspicious circumstances in Turkey?

    Is this global nexus of oil money & militant funding & state surveillance not just a way to encircle China from Central Asia?

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      Hui Muslims are socio-linguistically & historically of Chinese descent. And they are also known to have Salafist & extreme sectarian groups moving in and out of these areas in Xinjiang. Hui muslims have been implicated in Heroin rings & moving those drugs to those Uyghur areas.

      Well damn, better do some collective punishment then.

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        No, that's the thing, Hui muslims are also involved in criminal actions and stoking seditionist sentiment

        You want Daesh in PRC? pretty weird ngl

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          You want Daesh in PRC? pretty weird ngl

          Yes, and I want it here too obviously. That's why I'm not demanding Ilhan Omar be sent to a camp.

          I just love terrorism.

          • volkvulture [none/use name]
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            education & economic development are not law enforcement issues in the same way as the United States’ War on Drugs & racist for-profit prison industry.

            you can parse the lasting social benefits & fundamental uplifting aim of one over the other, i am sure of this.

            https://www.sbs.com.au/news/china-releases-video-of-uighur-musician-disputing-reported-death

            the way news & sensationalism & outright lies blend so perfectly into jingoism can’t be ignored. none of us are immune to propaganda, but I think we can comb through most of these claims about PRC and find very little real or irrefutable evidence.

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              education & economic development are not law enforcement issues in the same way as the United States’ War on Drugs & racist for-profit prison industry.

              Except you just implied it's part of counter-terror efforts.

              • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                yes, people who have access to gainful employment and are able to socially advance within society are far less likely to become violent seditionists, wouldn't you agree?

                poverty is endemic to these regions, but the knife attacks coincide with the rise of CIA backed fundamentalist Salafism.

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                  yes, people who have access to gainful employment and are able to socially advance within society are far less likely to become violent seditionists

                  Sure.

                  Now do it while respecting human rights.

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                    yes, giving people gainful employment and education and opportunities for advancement is literally guaranteeing autonomy & self-reliance & engendering human rights

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            and yes, US has racist extrajudicial Muslim torture camps LOL... I wonder wtf you're actually standing up for here?

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              Obviously we just need more of that.

              I wonder wtf you’re actually standing up for here?

              Does it help to point that I'm

              1. not a nationalist
              2. not even an American, I just live here.

              In other words I'm not standing up for anything except people I think deserve it.

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                sounds like you just need cope because USA is melting down and PRC is actually holding together and improving the lot of their people using ideologies & economic models that defy Western imperialism

                you can try and harp on unsupported & biased Western propaganda on PRC. I will wait for actual evidence