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  • volkvulture [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    yes, giving people gainful employment and education and opportunities for advancement is literally guaranteeing autonomy & self-reliance & engendering human rights

    • anthm17 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Giving?

      So these are all volunteers?

      • volkvulture [none/use name]
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        Yes

        "According to the official Chinese version, during the past three years voluntary education has been imparted to the Muslim population of Xinjiang so that their extremist tendencies may be rectified."

        • anthm17 [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          According to the official Chinese version

          According to the state the state didn't do bad things.

          You can always trust the state.

          • volkvulture [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            Well, you posted New Strait Times... so you must trust them, right?

            https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2019/08/512399/uyghurs-freely-join-re-education-camps

            • anthm17 [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              hmm https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/nov/24/china-cables-leak-no-escapes-reality-china-uighur-prison-camp

              • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                4 years ago

                weird, that article you sent says

                “The purpose [of the camp network] was to try to indoctrinate and change an entire population by channeling them through this dedicated system,” said Adrian Zenz, a leading researcher into the Xinjiang internment camps, who is senior fellow in China studies at the victims of communism foundation"

                So you take that Guardian's interpretation of Zenz' lies as fact huh?

                • anthm17 [he/him]
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                  No, but it's hard to find a publication that put out the leaks without referencing that anti-communist wacko.

                  Doesn't change the contents of the leaks.

                  • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                    4 years ago

                    yes, if these speculations contain positive references to Zenz in any way, then they are suspect

                    • anthm17 [he/him]
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                      4 years ago

                      The news is the leaks not the biased presentation.

                      • volkvulture [none/use name]
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                        Have you seen the provenance of these supposed "leaks"? Because, without actual verification of that information, it's just badly written Chinese script on paper.

                        Have you seen actual footage inside the schools?

                        Have you seen any physical evidence to suggest that people are being abused or culturally genocided or killed by PRC?

                        Because I don't think you've seen anything of that nature, you just take Adrian Zenz' sensationalism & anti-communism as unquestionable