liberalism

  • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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    10 months ago

    "Everyones favorite person in history did something wrong" is such flattening apologetics. This is the same as double genocide theory. Its only use is to make Nazis look better and smear communists.

    Its not that a figure like Stalin was perfect, but their is a difference between any critism of him and any US president, because he was involved in a socialist project (building up and safeguarding the USSR, and defeating fascism). US presidents "doing something wrong" are advancing the intetests of a white supremacist empire, or personal enrichment (like owning slaves).

    • SootyChimney [any]
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      10 months ago

      "I want to remove our violent oppressors by any means necessary so we can be free and happy" - Bad violent leftist who ruins parties

      "I knowingly sent material support for a genocide resulting in the deaths of 300,000+ people literally being gunned down in the street, oopsie doopsy everyone makes mistakes" - "Wholesome" "Nicest fucking dude"

    • Egon [they/them]
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      10 months ago

      Sure Nixon might've commited sexual assault, but have you considered the fact that Castro also had sex? smuglord

  • ElGosso [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    Everyone in the comments is going "yeah well who's your favorite historical figure?! I bet they weren't a very good person either!" and I'm just replying "smuglord whataboutism"

  • SootyChimney [any]
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    10 months ago

    Liberals: Nice try tankie, but all of our leaders and popularised heroes commit genocide, so it can't be criticism smuglord

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    10 months ago

    My favorite historical person is John Brown and he only did two things wrong. He should have brought more soldiers to Harpers Ferry and I read somewhere he would yell at his kids sometimes.

    Everything else he did was cool and good

    john-brown

      • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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        10 months ago

        General Tubman is my other favorite historical person. Am I allowed to have multiple favorites?

        • JuneFall [none/use name]
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          10 months ago

          liberalism: Sorry in communism you are rationed only with one favorite historical person.

          :left-unity-4: Anarcho-communist Polycules: Have as many favorite persons as you'd like!

    • ElGosso [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      I thought about it but it was more fun just to out smug the smuglords

      • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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        10 months ago

        Aw man, did he beat his kids? I mean I know it was the 1840s and times were different but that's sad.

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    10 months ago

    I ran a stop light once because I was on my phone and didn't see it. That makes me literally the same as Hitler. I don't make the rules I just follow them. Well except when I don't, and that also makes me literally the same as Mussolini.

  • duderium [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    Neoliberalism began with Carter, not Reagan. I hate when liberals blame Reagan for the world’s problems. Yes, Reagan sucks, but much of why he sucks actually comes from Carter. They are both monsters who have been rehabilitated like almost every other fucking dogshit president. (The only presidents who did good things were FDR and Lincoln and they still deserve prison time for the bad things they did.)

    • RedDawn [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      Yeah, you have a point but Reagan is the more natural target since while Carter did start to implement certain neoliberal policies, for Reagan it was his calling and religion since well before he became president (back when he was campaigning for Goldwater and when he was governor of California), he was a zealous convert to neoliberalism and is the one that established it as the state religion of the United States.

  • Biggay [he/him, comrade/them]
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    10 months ago

    I got in an argument with some lib on twitter who insisted that their personal forgiveness of his crime of assisting in the genocide of east timor should have been enough for me to rehabilitate him.

    Libs just dont want to divorce themselves from America.

  • TerminalEncounter [she/her]
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    10 months ago

    If only this person could take a second and thi k about why it is that every US president does war crimes worthy of Nuremburg style treatment including the "nicest guy ever" Jimmy Carter.

    Like, maybe there's something wrong with the office of the US presidency and the US government in general and perhaps both should be abolished for, at least, the sake of world peace and peoples liberation???

    • mayo_cider [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      But you don't understand, Obama had no choice but to drone bomb anything brown and keep Guantanamo Bay running a concentration camp

  • ElGosso [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    The first red comment there got to -60 before the thread got locked, I consider this to be a finer award than any Reddit badge

  • robinn2
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    10 months ago

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