I have DID. Most people with complex dissociative disorders don't use we/us unless in a very safe and understanding environment because of the sheer amount of ignorance and ableist sentiment surrounding our disorder. Even then some people don't like to and most of the time people switch back and forth using "I" for what that one alter/part did and "we" for something many or all did. I do appreciate you trying to be inclusive of people like me though.
And yeah I agree it would cause confusion to add them. Especially because we don't want to equate being trans with having a mental illness.
I have DID. Most people with complex dissociative disorders don’t use we/us unless in a very safe and understanding environment because of the sheer amount of ignorance and ableist sentiment surrounding our disorder.
yeah this is a totally fair point.
Even then some people don’t like to and most of the time people switch back and forth using “I” for what that one alter/part did and “we” for something many or all did.
yeah, I'm familiar, having lived with someone who has DID. I just didn't want this discussion to become "we/us pronouns are invalid", because they're not. they're just first-person.
And yeah I agree it would cause confusion to add them. Especially because we don’t want to equate being trans with having a mental illness.
honestly, after having a number of people bring this comparison up to me - bring it. everyone deserves to have their humanity respected, people with mental illnesses (as constructed as that category is) included. I'm deeply tired of the idea that mental illness is a reason any of us even need to entertain as for why a cis person might justify stripping us of our identities.
to be completely clear, my objection to we/us as flaired pronouns is not that DID is classified as a mental illness - it's that I don't think we should teach cis people that pronoun flairs are okay to ignore because there's a possibility that they might not be intended for use as references.
I have DID. Most people with complex dissociative disorders don't use we/us unless in a very safe and understanding environment because of the sheer amount of ignorance and ableist sentiment surrounding our disorder. Even then some people don't like to and most of the time people switch back and forth using "I" for what that one alter/part did and "we" for something many or all did. I do appreciate you trying to be inclusive of people like me though.
And yeah I agree it would cause confusion to add them. Especially because we don't want to equate being trans with having a mental illness.
yeah this is a totally fair point.
yeah, I'm familiar, having lived with someone who has DID. I just didn't want this discussion to become "we/us pronouns are invalid", because they're not. they're just first-person.
honestly, after having a number of people bring this comparison up to me - bring it. everyone deserves to have their humanity respected, people with mental illnesses (as constructed as that category is) included. I'm deeply tired of the idea that mental illness is a reason any of us even need to entertain as for why a cis person might justify stripping us of our identities.
to be completely clear, my objection to we/us as flaired pronouns is not that DID is classified as a mental illness - it's that I don't think we should teach cis people that pronoun flairs are okay to ignore because there's a possibility that they might not be intended for use as references.