• Awoo [she/her]
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      10 months ago

      Fuck off is it.

      Racism is something that is built up over years of horrific oppression as a marginalised people by those above you in the power hierarchy.

      Being called an "anglo devil" doesn't affect you. It rolls off you and every other white person like water, because it has no historical or cultural power built up by oppression. Racism hurts because racism immediately evokes the entire history of oppression a people has suffered. When I call you a cracker or a mayo it doesn't do anything, because you have no history of that oppression. Unlike when someone is called a real racial slur like nword, antisemitism, etc etc. Real fucking racism.

      You undermine efforts against REAL racism when you say stupid shit like claiming being called a mayo or cracker or anglo devil is racism against white people. Stop. Or admit you're a fragile white supremacist.

    • mittens [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      what do you think of "yakubian devil" do you think that's better, i'm just asking, i don't want to offend the spawn of yakub

    • silent_water [she/her]
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      10 months ago

      racism is when you criticize the dominant, hegemonic power, and the more racister it is the more you do it. lmayo

    • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]
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      10 months ago

      Having been where you are about 10 years ago, let me put it in a way that I wish had been put to me originally.

      Yes, from a dictionary, contextless and rather aseptic dictionary definition perspective, 'anglo-devil' is a fairly racist thing to say. The problem is that for understanding the systemic structure and effects of racism throughout history, that definition where racism is that sort of individualized interaction is a useless impediment for understanding what is actually going on. So you're going to get definitions of racism that offer more practical utility for that study, and under those definitions, anglo-devil doesn't really fit the bill.

      You don't have to agree with those redefinitions, but it would at least be sensible to try to understand why they exist and who/what the old aseptic definition might be serving.

      • Egon [they/them]
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        10 months ago

        As much as I like the jokes, I'm glad someone actually took the time to explain the reasoning behind the dunks.
        We often expect others to have the same understanding as we do, but we really shouldn't. I used to find the "yakubian cumskin" jokes crass and offensive as well, until someone took the time to sincerely explain it to me.

      • dartos@reddthat.com
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        10 months ago

        You don’t know anything about me or where I am. Please don’t try making things personal it’s weird.