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  • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Orwellian language like “the steep drop in Uighur fertility rates is actually industrialization”

    I don't think you know what "Orwellian" means.

    “we’re saving these savages from themselves and culturing them” and “there’s 30 million people in Xinjiang, what’s 2 million anyway rofl”

    lol no one here has ever said anything like this, get the fuck out of town

    • CallMeALibItsAllGood [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Orwellian is double speak. Calling internment camps "reeducation centers" is one such example.

      Yes, people say it here all the time. "There was a lot of Islamic Extremist separatists, and China was justified in reigning them in" Imagine if the US had swept in, put a bunch of Native American children in schools, and slowly socialized them out of their original culture? Oh wait...

      • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        You said this was Orwellian:

        “the steep drop in Uighur fertility rates is actually industrialization”

        That's not remotely Orwellian. It's not remotely double speak. It's offering an alternate explanation for declining fertility rates -- the fact that fertility rates in all kinds of groups drop when they move from underdeveloped, pre-industrial conditions to modern conditions with education, greater material security, healthcare, etc.

        If you say your car won't start because it needs new spark plugs, and I point out that maybe you just don't have gas in it, that's not Orwellian double speak, that's just an alternate explanation for what you're observing.

        “There was a lot of Islamic Extremist separatists, and China was justified in reigning them in”

        If you can't see the difference between this and "we're saving these savages from themselves" or "lol who fucking cares about 2 million Chinese people," once again, get the fuck out of town.

        • ChairmanAtreides [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Just wanted to say that what hogposting said about population growth decreasing as the society's material conditions improve is p much universally true around the world. As material conditions improve and the less people are working sustenance farming, the less kids people have because they don't need free farmhands