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  • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    This is important, but we also need lib looking sources for sharing leftist content from. The concept of pipelines are real, people fall down rabbitholes, but they're also very aware of of where they're getting their info from. There's this built in check that brains do where they associate the information they're consuming with the source of the information. If they know you're a radical leftist and you're sending them leftist stuff, they're seeing it as something radical and it will set off alarms to be wary; But if they get the occasional guillotine joke from the fb page Nancy Pelosi Yass Qween #1 that's going to slide in under their radar.

      • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Gravel Institute is great, but it's not quite what I'm talking about. Think facebook pages that are targeted directly towards the folks who are eating up the Biden koolaid. Have like 90% of the posts be total yes-dems, anti-trump type shit.; No platform, no policy, just vapid cheerleading. Then have like 10% (or even less) of the content be somewhat more to the left (AOC and the squad, medicare 4 all), with some of that slightly leftist content being shares from other pages which are running the same 90/10 plan, but just slightly more to the left with their main content as they draw from other pages that are doing the same thing. Right? So you've got this internal circle of lib-supreme pages dropping memes focused on all the heavy hitters of the democratic party and then outer rings of content that gradually get more and more radical . If you want to get really tricky you could even monitor who is liking/sharing what and unlike them from the inner pages as they like/share more and more stuff from the outer pages.

        Basically, we need a whole ecosystem designed to funnel libs to the left. If there isn't a pipeline available and we're always going to be fighting against silicon valley's bias to the right wing then we gotta build our own pipeline that exploits the system to change the narrative. Anyone who is into reading should really check out Dark Money by Jane Mayer to understand how the Kochtopus works and what the right is doing. Those fucks are even donating school worksheets for holidays like labor day that focus on individuality instead of unions and shit like that.

        I say this having attempted something similar using random meme pages. Anime type shit, comic books, and video games. I had over a hundred meme pages (some from my collection of 1800+ total pages from a previous project) before facebook kicked me off for a dmca takedown third strike. My Hero Academia Page? Here's an Our Hero Academia meme. Etc.

  • btbt [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I’d be worried about a potential increase in vaushites

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    This is diabolical but it has to be radical enough to avoid breadtubers being in the recommendations. Breadtubers are not included in the radical content recommendations so as long as you're showing people cool shit like Parenti mixes and Hakim and Bayarea415 you're probably in a good spot.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        What's between Contra and Chapo though?

        Obviously Hakim and Bayarea are actually FURTHER down the pipeline than ChapoChat and CTH. My concern with the Breadtubers is that there's almost nothing that exists between the Breadtubers and where we are.

        This is a problem because it means the only thing that we have going for us to pipeline them our way is being way less uptight and way more fun. Often this means we're only discovered through sheer luck.

        The other side of this is that Chapo and CTH are ANGRILY opposed within breadtuber communities. Those communities hate and villify us on the regular, actively taking part in trying to NOT pipeline people further down the line. This is in contrast with what we do as a community because I'm actually really happy to tell people they should check out things that are deeper, like lemmygrad and so on. MTC was the next step from CTH for example and I'd encourage people to go to it even if I spent the bulk of my time on the subreddit.

        Breadtube is only accidentally part of the pipeline and it does everything it possibly can to stop people from going any deeper. It feels opposed to everything to its left, they are not working in solidarity with the movement.