get your fucking head on straight

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      Check out this. And peep Trump on North Korea, not invading Iran when somebody like Hillary absolutely would've, not doing any crazy shit in Venezuela and shitting on Guaido, etc.

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        North Korea is the only thing I'll give you. But if you're going to give him credit for that, then you need to do the same for Obama with Cuba and Iran. Saying that Hillary would've invaded Iran is a counterfactual, and we have Trump carrying out by far the most direct escalation with Iran since the Jimmy Carter.

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          I'll absolutely give Obama credit for Cuba and Iran. Those were two great things he did. He also did shit like bombing Libya to the point where they now have literal slave markets, and helped create the power vacuum that led to ISIS in the Middle East. Trump hasn't started a war, and the blood on his hands is definitely less than Obama.

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            Trump hasn't started a war, but he has tried to start a war with Iran. And he has worsened every single war Obama inherited and started. More bombings, more drone strikes, more troops on the ground.

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              And then he backed down despite the advice of his generals. Trump is not beholden to the American imperial apparatus in the way that Obama et al were and will be, and that's partially why they hate him so much.

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                How the fuck is killing Soleimani backing down? Why is everyone in this thread ignoring that?

                  • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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                    If Clinton or whoever were in that position

                    They wouldn't have tanked the Iran nuclear deal and then started a regional crisis on Twitter.

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                    He did not "puss out". He is currently actively antagonizing Iran, stealing their oil tankers and weapon shipments. He did that this week.

      • CarlTheRedditor [he/him]
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        And peep Trump on North Korea,

        IIRC, he was all but trying to start a war via Twitter, then did a few photo ops after Kim flattered him, and didn't lift sanctions whatsoever.

        What am I missing here?