• JayTwo [any]
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    4 years ago

    They have to be an op. They have to be.

    • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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      4 years ago

      any left wing group worth noting is going to be infiltrated by FBI agents. History and COINTELPRO have proved that. Unfortunately the FBI is really good at infiltrating these groups now and often their agents can acquire leadership positions with few difficulties. I would not doubt the FBI is involved.

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        4 years ago

        their agents can acquire leadership positions with few difficulties

        "Christ this is a ton of work and I'm only organizing part time. Hey, Jim From The Office-looking motherfucker, can you handle the website and maybe schedule a few events? Christ, so glad I've got Jim. I swear, it's like it is his job to be here."

        • JayTwo [any]
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          4 years ago

          They also stay on when infighting (that they often cause) happens and everyone else gets frustrated and leaves, giving them seniority, and making the electoral pool smaller when it comes time to elect people to positions. Not to mention that all of the plants strategize to vote en bloc.

        • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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          4 years ago

          "damn Jim always donates so much money to our events, of course we can trust him with leading a few projects."

      • JayTwo [any]
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        There's a difference, though, between informants being in the org and informants leading the org. Everything the Austin MLM club does, when they actually do stuff, hurts the left and the "hoods" they claim to protect.

        Even the good stuff they apparently did was, from what I've heard from someone who was in Austin at the time, largely taking credit for others' accomplishments. Like announcing a skirmish in advance, gaining the attention of reactionaries, not showing up, then claiming victory when reactionaries picked fights with neighborhood members and lost.

      • JayTwo [any]
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        4 years ago

        When the government shutdown started, they "disbanded". When the shutdown ended, they "reformed" or whatever.

        Redguard sus

        • taxidea [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I remember hearing that but didnt see any evidence of it do you have their statement of disbanding and reopening or something like that saved anywhere?

          • JayTwo [any]
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            4 years ago

            "The project has reached its conclusion" on 12/17. The shutdown was officially on 12/22 but people were bracing for it beforehand.

            https://facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1994676970618447&id=722986724454151

            https://redguardsaustin.wordpress.com/2018/12/17/important-notice/

            As for when they reformed, I'm having a hard time finding that, because their "news service" has had, like, two or three different names from then to now. AFAIK they're technically not the red guards anymore, but they're still the fucking red guards.

            • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Yeah, I think tribuneofthepeople.com is their current name for their "news service".

              • JayTwo [any]
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                Anyways, their blogs are always so amusing to read, both because they talk of their "accomplishments" as if someone else did them, they just noticed (which is better opsec, 🤐 is best) and they try to tie their stuff into a greater global proletarian movement. So, it reads like:

                Brazil: Thousands of people rebel against the oppressive Bolsonaro regime.

                Chile: Masses stand up to undo the horrors of the Pinochet regime and its legacy

                Austin: Some people tag "Elections No! Revolutions Yes!" on the side of a bridge.


                🎶One of these things is not like the others🎶

              • JayTwo [any]
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                4 years ago

                Currently, yes.

                I was trying to find a statement of formation from after RGA dissolved. Which I think would be Incendiary News, but I'm not 100% certain.

                • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  I don't think Incendiary ever published a refounding/re-formation notice. I did just pop over to it, and I'd forgotten how cringe-inducing their final article was.

                  • JayTwo [any]
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                    4 years ago

                    Yeah, I want to know what the infighting behind that was actually about.

                    • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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                      4 years ago

                      Yep. You used to be able to read between the lines, because when every post is 2500+ words, there's a lot of lines to read between. But their posting had slowed down by then.

                      • JayTwo [any]
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                        4 years ago

                        I hope it's because of the pig heads.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      4 years ago

      They're not an op. They're a sketch comedy act for the Zeta-Reticulans who visit our planet for tourism.

    • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I'm on the Op side. They made numerous spinoffs when they broke up. They are named things like "Serve the People", "Protect our Hoodz" (actually spelled like that). One is the Mike Ramos Brigade named after a victim of police brutality who's family disavowed the group. They apparently chastised the family saying they didn't understand what needed to be done. Back in June, they organized a march against APD which was basically a rival march of the Austin Justice Coalition which had one the next day. The Mike Ramos Brigade then made a Facebook event to protest Target after the one in Minneapolis got looted. That was so sus.

      • JayTwo [any]
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        Before they started nailing pig heads everywhere, and fighting with DSA members, and were known for fighting fascists, I had some respect for them.

        Until a comrade who was locally active at the time told me that it was a fiction and they rarely ever defended anything.

        A few took pot shots and ran, which ain't a bad thing, tbh. But mostly they did shit to invite the fash into the neighborhoods then took credit for what happened afterwards.

        And also a lot of what they did, like in your march example, piggybacked off of other movements, causing confusion and sapping their strength.

        • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Yeah. A friend of mine said they got the shit beat out of them by fash when the Red Guards were armed.

          • JayTwo [any]
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            4 years ago

            Yeah. Stoke tensions, then run away. That's what I was told.