At first I was debating if it would be 4 or 8 years, but now I'm pretty confident they'd just get one term, not 2.

Cuz we all know damn well they're not gonna do jack shit to actually fix anything, America will still overall be in decline, and all the people who aren't lib cultists are gonna be pissed about that.

They can't skate by just on charisma like Obama did.

Not to mention the chuds will likely want revenge for getting the first one-termer in decades, so they'll be extra motivated to get even.

Just how bad do you think the next abomination the Republicans shit out will be?

I think they're gonna make Trump look like amateur hour.

  • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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    Biden isn't gonna run again. Kamala's ability to win the primary will depend on if that's due to him dying or retiring; if she's an incumbent she'll be the nominee, and her chances for victory will probably be pretty bad. If she's the VP of a retiring president, she probably won't do well in the primaries and the Dems will manufacture someone else in her place.

    • OhWell [he/him]
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      Kamala couldn't even poll better than 13% in the primaries and she failed to win her own state.

      After Biden announced her as VP, his poll numbers dropped and the race tightened up until Trump kept sinking himself with his stupid loud mouth and his COVID response.

      People hate Harris and for good reason. If they ran her in 2024, she's going to get destroyed by Tom Cotton, Dan Crenshaw, Ben Sasse or whatever fascist out of the GOP emerges.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I vote for Dan Crenshaw because a Fascist with an eyepatch is what I was raised to expect from the 2020s and it would be the first thing in my miserable wretched life that genuinely made sense.

        Crenshaw 2024: Because a Fascist should look like a Sunday morning cartoon villain

        • Healthcare_pls [he/him]
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          Guy with an eyepatch that focuses exclusively on the military and uses soldiers and nuclear threats to handle geopolitical conflicts for profit.

          Very excited for the Big Boss presidency!

        • OhWell [he/him]
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          If Biden pulls this off, it's only going to be because of the pandemic and Trump's horrible response to it, along with the recession we're in.

          In a regular election season with no pandemic, Trump would've been rolling all summer doing rallies and energizing his base while the DNC had Biden locked in the basement only to emerge every now and then and say some wild WTF racist thing about black people. His "you ain't black!" comment and the sexual assaults would've probably got more coverage too if not for COVID and then the riots that occurred in June. The pandemic and then the riots changed everything. Without all this though, Biden would be looking to lose.

          Yet despite all of this in his favor, he's still a weak candidate and has been underperforming. I think if he wins it's only going to be because people are understandably scared shitless from how bad Trump has handled the pandemic. That's the only thing Biden really has that is pushing him.

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      Honestly, there are a multitude of ways this could go but BIden retiring and Kamala running not as the sitting president is the best shot we got at a progressive challenger winning who would unquestionably stand a better chance against whatever Republican they end up running.

      Not that the dem party won't again do everything possible to torpedo that possibility and not that I even see it as the most likely primary scenario we'll get, but it's the best possible one I see given how amazingly unpopular Kamala is. I think Kamala stands a very likely chance of losing to whatever the Republicans run even if they're another incompetent idiot like Trump.

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        You still think the DNC is going to allow a progressive to win after all their dirty tricks against Sanders? He isn't even the first. They did similar dirty tricks against Howard Dean and before him, there was Jesse Jackson. You can go all the way back to them nominating Hubert Humphrey in the 60s when over 80% of the votes in that primary went to anti-war candidates.

        The Democratic party is historically, a graveyard for social movements and ideals. The few times they have moved left in history, they had to be dragged, kicking and screaming the entire time like with civil rights.

        That party is fine with losing to Republicans, cause they rather work with them than anything to the left of the center.

        • Keeperofthe7keys [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          You still think the DNC is going to allow a progressive to win after all their dirty tricks against Sanders?

          No, I specifically said I expect them to do the same again, I listed the best possible scenario I see conducive to being able to make an attempt at a progressive campaign. I did not say it is likely to happen much less succeed.

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            Electoralism has failed us. Progressives should abandon that rotten party and push to create a real third party to replace the joke that is the Green party.

        • Churnthrow123 [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          The Democratic party is historically, a graveyard for social movements and ideals. The few times they have moved left in history, they had to be dragged, kicking and screaming the entire time like with civil rights.

          The New Deal was a pyrrhic victory Despite all the benefits, we are stuck with the burden of the Dems being the "Left" in this country just because of the fluke of Roosevelt being of the right mind at the right moment.

      • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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        I was optimistic about Bernie winning earlier. And I think he probably would've won the general. But there's no way the Dems let any decent lefty candidate win the primary. They straight up faked the vote counts.

        • Keeperofthe7keys [he/him]
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          Yeah the problem given our insure election infrastructure is winning isn't good enough, you need to win by a large enough margin that machines won't flip enough votes and the polling margin is so large it's not a question who wins going in. The dems had to play a lot of cards in the primary to try to not only crunch that margin and give the perception of a Biden surge, but also obscure what the real numbers were going into super tuesday, that I think was unusually bold amount of flipping for how it's normally done. Had that been in some third world country you'd immediately have western nations condemning that as election fraud.

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      I respectfully disagree. I think he's an arrogant asshole who thinks he knows best. If his brain isn't absolute pudding by 2024 I can see him running, which would also be funny because it would force Kamala to stop being his VP and try to primary him instead.

      • Phish [he/him, any]
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        4 years ago

        If he does that they'll probably just have him killed and play up the sympathy card. Biden will never look more dignified than if he dies in office.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Biden is shitting himself to death in the White House Rose Garden

          Pete Buttigeig, Deputy Senior Vice Director of Dog Elimination, with a tear in his dry, unblinking eyes: "Godspeed, Mr President"

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      If Biden doesn't run again, don't be surprised for him to step down and allow Kamala to run as an incumbent.

      Assuming they can even win this one...

      • Churnthrow123 [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Kamala is an absolute dud. The Democrats have attracted a lot of rich people and neocons recently, and they are able to plainly see that without the queen worship DNC insiders might have for her. They won't offer her up to get destroyed unless they can't find anyone else.