At first I was debating if it would be 4 or 8 years, but now I'm pretty confident they'd just get one term, not 2.
Cuz we all know damn well they're not gonna do jack shit to actually fix anything, America will still overall be in decline, and all the people who aren't lib cultists are gonna be pissed about that.
They can't skate by just on charisma like Obama did.
Not to mention the chuds will likely want revenge for getting the first one-termer in decades, so they'll be extra motivated to get even.
Just how bad do you think the next abomination the Republicans shit out will be?
I think they're gonna make Trump look like amateur hour.
Absolutely. Biden more or less is going to accelerate us directly to a full blown fascist.
Considering that he will inherit the worst US economy and highest unemployment since the great depression, right in the midst of what is becoming the height of the pandemic and has ZERO plan for any of this? Oh yeah. The right wing backlash is going to be fucking massive and unlike anything we've ever seen before.
Biden's staff have already hinted that if they win, their goal is to push extreme austerity and blame it on Trump. People are already suffering from a recession and through austerity, it's going to become a full blown depression. People will be angry and looking at answers outside of the system and won't trust the Democratic party anymore.
This entire election cycle, Dems pushed as far to the right as they possibly could. They aren't even hiding it. They literally wanted to become the 2000s era Republican party and Biden basically is their version of George W Bush. It's going to get bad.
Biden isn't gonna run again. Kamala's ability to win the primary will depend on if that's due to him dying or retiring; if she's an incumbent she'll be the nominee, and her chances for victory will probably be pretty bad. If she's the VP of a retiring president, she probably won't do well in the primaries and the Dems will manufacture someone else in her place.
Kamala couldn't even poll better than 13% in the primaries and she failed to win her own state.
After Biden announced her as VP, his poll numbers dropped and the race tightened up until Trump kept sinking himself with his stupid loud mouth and his COVID response.
People hate Harris and for good reason. If they ran her in 2024, she's going to get destroyed by Tom Cotton, Dan Crenshaw, Ben Sasse or whatever fascist out of the GOP emerges.
I vote for Dan Crenshaw because a Fascist with an eyepatch is what I was raised to expect from the 2020s and it would be the first thing in my miserable wretched life that genuinely made sense.
Crenshaw 2024: Because a Fascist should look like a Sunday morning cartoon villain
Guy with an eyepatch that focuses exclusively on the military and uses soldiers and nuclear threats to handle geopolitical conflicts for profit.
Very excited for the Big Boss presidency!
If Biden pulls this off, it's only going to be because of the pandemic and Trump's horrible response to it, along with the recession we're in.
In a regular election season with no pandemic, Trump would've been rolling all summer doing rallies and energizing his base while the DNC had Biden locked in the basement only to emerge every now and then and say some wild WTF racist thing about black people. His "you ain't black!" comment and the sexual assaults would've probably got more coverage too if not for COVID and then the riots that occurred in June. The pandemic and then the riots changed everything. Without all this though, Biden would be looking to lose.
Yet despite all of this in his favor, he's still a weak candidate and has been underperforming. I think if he wins it's only going to be because people are understandably scared shitless from how bad Trump has handled the pandemic. That's the only thing Biden really has that is pushing him.
Honestly, there are a multitude of ways this could go but BIden retiring and Kamala running not as the sitting president is the best shot we got at a progressive challenger winning who would unquestionably stand a better chance against whatever Republican they end up running.
Not that the dem party won't again do everything possible to torpedo that possibility and not that I even see it as the most likely primary scenario we'll get, but it's the best possible one I see given how amazingly unpopular Kamala is. I think Kamala stands a very likely chance of losing to whatever the Republicans run even if they're another incompetent idiot like Trump.
You still think the DNC is going to allow a progressive to win after all their dirty tricks against Sanders? He isn't even the first. They did similar dirty tricks against Howard Dean and before him, there was Jesse Jackson. You can go all the way back to them nominating Hubert Humphrey in the 60s when over 80% of the votes in that primary went to anti-war candidates.
The Democratic party is historically, a graveyard for social movements and ideals. The few times they have moved left in history, they had to be dragged, kicking and screaming the entire time like with civil rights.
That party is fine with losing to Republicans, cause they rather work with them than anything to the left of the center.
You still think the DNC is going to allow a progressive to win after all their dirty tricks against Sanders?
No, I specifically said I expect them to do the same again, I listed the best possible scenario I see conducive to being able to make an attempt at a progressive campaign. I did not say it is likely to happen much less succeed.
Electoralism has failed us. Progressives should abandon that rotten party and push to create a real third party to replace the joke that is the Green party.
The Democratic party is historically, a graveyard for social movements and ideals. The few times they have moved left in history, they had to be dragged, kicking and screaming the entire time like with civil rights.
The New Deal was a pyrrhic victory Despite all the benefits, we are stuck with the burden of the Dems being the "Left" in this country just because of the fluke of Roosevelt being of the right mind at the right moment.
I was optimistic about Bernie winning earlier. And I think he probably would've won the general. But there's no way the Dems let any decent lefty candidate win the primary. They straight up faked the vote counts.
Yeah the problem given our insure election infrastructure is winning isn't good enough, you need to win by a large enough margin that machines won't flip enough votes and the polling margin is so large it's not a question who wins going in. The dems had to play a lot of cards in the primary to try to not only crunch that margin and give the perception of a Biden surge, but also obscure what the real numbers were going into super tuesday, that I think was unusually bold amount of flipping for how it's normally done. Had that been in some third world country you'd immediately have western nations condemning that as election fraud.
I respectfully disagree. I think he's an arrogant asshole who thinks he knows best. If his brain isn't absolute pudding by 2024 I can see him running, which would also be funny because it would force Kamala to stop being his VP and try to primary him instead.
If he does that they'll probably just have him killed and play up the sympathy card. Biden will never look more dignified than if he dies in office.
Biden is shitting himself to death in the White House Rose Garden
Pete Buttigeig, Deputy Senior Vice Director of Dog Elimination, with a tear in his dry, unblinking eyes: "Godspeed, Mr President"
If Biden doesn't run again, don't be surprised for him to step down and allow Kamala to run as an incumbent.
Assuming they can even win this one...
Kamala is an absolute dud. The Democrats have attracted a lot of rich people and neocons recently, and they are able to plainly see that without the queen worship DNC insiders might have for her. They won't offer her up to get destroyed unless they can't find anyone else.
Yeah I mean obviously depends on what kind of ghoul makes it through the republican primary in 2024. If the Dems win in 2020 I'd be shocked if Biden seeks a second term, assuming he's even still in charge after four years. I don't know if they'll just hand it to Kamala either. If Joe is alive and steps down there will be a real primary which some asshole like Pete could easily mop the floor with Kamala, whose insidious laughter will have worn even the libbiest of libs down by then. Hard to imagine a Biden/Harris administration doing anything to elevate people's material conditions enough to warrant a second term. Without a big, loud jackass like Trump to rally Dem voters we're probably looking at historically low voter turnout in 2024, which is never good for Dems.
IDK I can't even predict what the next week of American politics will look like, let alone the next four years.
This is what I've been thinking lately. I think 2 term presidents are going to be a rare thing from now on. Shit is only going to get worse from here on out and people are going to get more and more pissed.
Unironically I am fully expecting Biden to die within the first two years so Great Leader Kamala can ascend to presidency
Two months after being sworn in, she's going to push a button and Biden's brain is gonna sleep out his nose.
"Just as planned" she giggles as Peter Paul Buttigieg emerges from behind a bookcase, snickering like Muttley
in Kamala's view the optimal day for her is probably January 21st, 2023 so she can go for ten full years as qween
Only 2 Irish Catholic Presidents in the history of the USA, and neither of them is allowed to live through his first term. Please don't tell me that anti-Irish prejudice isn't a problem in this country!
Kamala is really about to Veep her way into office. Iannucci pls use your powers for good next time and predict a better future.
I think it'll go Biden, MyPillow guy, Schumer, then somewhere in there armed insurrection by fascists
MyPillow guy vs Hunter Biden 2024. Next year, Hunter starts his own pillow company. Makes millions. Then we have a faceoff between two former drug addict pillow magnates for president.
They’ll win, pass some bailout bill, waffle about, then make an about face about debt/slow bomb in the tax bill (which should explode in 2022(?) and together with Republicans implement austerity.
2 years later: tucker carlson, do you swear to uphold and protect the constitution of the United states?
I don't think it's guaranteed. The Republican Party is still mostly the same brand of loser as the Democrats, they could fuck it up.
I expect that in 2024 you'll see a lot of corporate-owned candidates trying to be Trump the same way Buttigieg was trying to be a progressive, to a similar degree of success.
2022 midterms will go Red. 2024, Kamala will lose in a landslide to Cotton.
Cottons first rule will be to “hold the left accountable”
Take the next 4 years to prepare for that inevitable situation. Get out, train, go to the Mountains, but just be ready when it comes. Cause it’s coming
I think it's more likely that the DNC doesn't give the nomination to Harris (Biden will not run for a second term). That seems like a total DNC move. She'll endorse Hillary or something in these trying times.
This is hellworld. Whatever the worst possible outcome is, that is what will happen.
So nothing interesting, or definitive. Instead we'll just be stuck in a milquetost Libero-Fascism where a tiny fraction of undesirables in murdered every year, but not in any way that actually rouses people to action. Instead we'll just be immersed in an increasingly itchy, sweaty, uncomfortable broiler of a planet. In 2050 we'll have portly but ineffectual fascists, the world will be promising to prevent climate change form reacing 10c by 2100, and more and more people will simply sweat themselves to death until there is no one left.
yep most definitely, especially if they fumble the covid response, but I'm just hoping a (more competent) fascist won't be a candidate in 4 years
Biden will be too old, so it's gonna be Kamala. Because she never won the primary, there's an argument to be made to challenge her. Perhaps the left can regroup and actually do it this time.
The demographic shift is not in the GOP's favour, but they will gerrymander and steal their way to a 2024 win.
The GOP is making gains with men of color, though. And the Republicans bench is stacked with Gen Xers just entering their prime compared to the Democrats.
