all Obama has to do to stop the next Bernie is have Michelle run, kill yourselves

  • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    A top priority for the left has to be convincing libs that Obama wasn't good. This is a crucial step in radicalization, it would inoculate the 2024 primary against the ratfucking that got us Joe Biden, and we're far enough from his administration that people can start to view it as history instead of something they're emotionally invested in. We'll have ample opportunity to do this, too, assuming Biden pulls it off.

    • OhWell [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      A top priority for the left has to be convincing libs that Obama wasn’t good

      Talk about a huge waste of time. Libs worship him. Obama is to them, what Reagan is to conservatives.

      Instead of wasting your time talking to smug liberals who hate poor people, go talk to your co-workers and other working class people who had to live through the recession with Obama and know just how awful he was.

      • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Bill Clinton was fondly remembered by libs during the Bush years, but we eventually got far enough from his administration that you could criticize it without coming off like a political hack. Look at all the criticism of the crime bill this election cycle -- it was significant enough that Biden called it a mistake at a debate. Obama's approval among Democrats is still high, but it's dropped about 10 points from when he left office.

        We can similarly move the needle on Obama. And if you can't persuade libs of that, good luck building a coalition to replace centrist Democrats.

        Instead of wasting your time talking to smug liberals who hate poor people, go talk to your co-workers and other working class people

        Not all libs are smug assholes who hate poor people, and there are serious concerns about the "appeal to the 100 million who don't vote" strategy.