• Amorphous [any]
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    4 years ago

    I hate the absurd lack of subtlety common among political cartoons. Why does the fucking rose need to be labeled?

    • Southloop [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Ask the average American what political group the Arm and Hammer symbolize and the answer will probably be 'baking soda.'

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      • Phish [he/him, any]
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        4 years ago

        Yeah, while I agree that political cartoons are over-explained, I don't think your average Dem or republican would know what that means. Honestly not convinced they do even with the label.

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        4 years ago

        Yeah, but so what? "What if some random person who hasn't read a book willingly in their entire life doesn't understand my art?" Oh no, the horror.

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            4 years ago

            I guess we just have very different expectations about the point of making a piece of art. If your piece of art could be replaced by black text on a white background that just says "DEMOCRATS FAIL, DSA THRIVES" without any sort of value in the art being lost, what is the point of even making the art?

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      4 years ago

      Why does the fucking rose need to be labeled?

      I'm just trying to figure out what the donkey represents.

  • OhWell [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    DSA isn't going to take over the Democratic party. They won city councils and a few House seats, most in comfy blue states.

    In the same time span, the Tea Party had radically taken over the GOP and completely transformed them. They made huge gains in 2010 and then continued up to 2012 and won even more in 2014 right before Trump rose to the stage and became their leader that they sorely lacked before that.

    The Democratic party has historically been a graveyard for social movements and change. Sanders isn't the first one they screwed and he won't be the last. That party has proven time and time again, they have to be dragged, kicking and screaming to move left. They are basically what the Republicans were 20 years ago and that's what they wanted to be.

  • Lrak [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I want a version where the donkey is dead and a carcass and the rose is just a rose without "DSA"

  • UglySpaghettiHoe [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Times are tough, but there is still some good news. It is legitimately nice get a break from doomerposting, don't become complacent, but don't become blackpilled either

      • GlacialTurtle [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        DSA national says it's 26/30

        https://twitter.com/DemSocialists/status/1324043849023586306

        https://mobile.twitter.com/Beckz0rzz/status/1323846630794268672

        Twitter thread on conservative losers vs winners who supported M4A and shit:

        https://twitter.com/aidan_smx/status/1324465958832889856

        Wish there were better sources collating and summarising all this, people will have to put up with twitter threads.

        • JuanJuan66 [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          28/37 last I checked and there’s been a couple of wins since then and a few races that are looking good but haven’t been called yet.

      • SirLotsaLocks [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        oh nice, I hope that soon the DSA can get an actual congress seat, once something like that happens people won't feel like a vote for them is a vote wasted and I think they'll become a lot more popular

        • RIPdeadswitch [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          The DSA is not a party. They back socialist candidates, the candidates run under whatever party banner they choose

            • spectre [he/him]
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              It's not lib because with their combined resources as as a new party they could do a long list of political actions with state and local electoral campaigns being priority number 4 or 5, and national a national campaign being priority 25. Unfortunately there are a ton of Green and DSA libs who have the "freedom and democracy" attitude because they aren't aware of how badly that mindset holds them back from being effective, so it's difficult to get them to coalesce.

              I am an advocate of making this happen at the DSA at the branch level. Ideally the path is something like this:

              • Start a Marxist caucus at a local (many of them have this already in major cities)
              • Marxists campaign within their local to introduce centralist mechanisms within their branch, these campaigns can be used as an educational opportunity for others. The caucus should be careful about how this is presented. Howie Hawkins actually has a nice little pamphlet that lays a lot of this out.
              • Get the branch as a whole to behave in a demcent manner on smaller activities, start to propose registering as a party at the state level. At this point there might be more tension with national, so you'll need to start working around them on that front, with the backing of the branch membership.
              • Start a campaign for a city council with >100k residents, and work your way to the state level from there. Start to incorporate other left orgs and work out ways to bring them into the fold.
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                  yeah for sure, give me an hour or so cause i'm gonna flesh it out some more. I also need a better title than "What is to be done? v144"

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                  https://hexbear.net/post/48328

                  edit: I can repost a more succinct version next week if it doesn't get attention. the only issue is that there's a lot of context imo, but people probably won't want to read it.

  • 420clownpeen [they/them,any]
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    4 years ago

    Version needs to be in an apocalyptic, desertified, climate change-ravaged landscape because that's about the speed at which they are "taking over".