Are they purposely doing this bumbling moron shit as an op to make it look like libs are setting them up? I don't get it. Is this just what fascism looks like in an idiocracy? And if that's true, how are we losing to these people?

    • angry_dyke [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Like, lots of Trump people are really dumb, but are they this dumb? What did they think they were going to accomplish? Also, how does someone this dumb make enough money for an $80k car? None of this makes any sense.

      • Circra [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Someone who is rich enough for a fancy car is probably dumber than someone who isn't because they have been told that rich=smart and successful so they're gonna be way less likely to ask themselves if it's a good idea or not.

        • angry_dyke [she/her]
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          Yeah, I drive a $25k car that's been paid off over a year now and I actually do make six figures. Not having a car payment is amazing.

            • angry_dyke [she/her]
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              4 years ago

              Ridiculous amounts of privilege. Upper middle class parents, genetic lottery in height and coordination, athletic scholarship, so no student debt.

              • BOK6669 [none/use name]
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                I don't like it!!!

                I'm on the other end of the spectrum. It took me to college to get it, I didn't really encounter rich people before then, but damn does it really does add up.

                I just don't get how anyone thinks it's okay (especially people with it) that only some people get to live their life to the best of their ability and ambitions while the rest of us are pulled back by SO SO SO many factors.

                Why could that possibly be a good system? Glad you're here with us.

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          4 years ago

          Yeah, like the rubes in Liberal, KS a few years ago who were essentially entrapped into a bomb plot targeting an apartment complex where Somali refugees lived. These people would probably just be relatively harmless seething racists and idiots, but the feds get involved and turn them into something else. Why can't they just not be bigots, accept Marxism, and we could overthrow the state together?

    • Chomsky [comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      As I said in another thread, the US is absolutely infamous for election rigging and psyops all over the world including large scale psyops in the US (cointelpro). There is no way in hell they are not putting their finger on the scale somehow.

  • TheUrbanaSquirrel [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Chuds know nothing about the voting process. I was in a very long back and forth about mail in ballots with someone who insisted it was fraudulent but could not explain how someone could actually pull it off. They live in a complete fantasy world when Google is right at their fucking fingertips. So yes, I do believe these people could be that stupid. I’m not going to say the FBI wouldn’t take advantage of it, to justify their jobs. Six of one, half dozen of another.

  • BOK6669 [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    how come i have student loans and im busting my ass for a new job and this idiot has a hummer and gets to be completely stupid

    • Blottergrass [he/him]
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      He was in the military. You get like $18,000 a year and don't have to spend a dime of it while serving. Probably blew it all on the hummer as soon as he got discharged.

      • BOK6669 [none/use name]
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        He had a job too, the article says he worked for a security company, what looks like installing CCTV, fire detection etc. Or maybe a dumbo security guard who read QAnon shit all day at work because security is easy as fuck. It probably paid decently either way. And his employer thought he was a good employee.

        While I know food and housing is free, I don't really think there are very many young guys who freshly join the military and save all their money. The meme is that they take ridiculous something like 26% interest rates to buy a Camaro and they get married to the first woman they saw, get her pregnant and divorce immediately.

        Havin been through it myself, the dudes in basic training couldn't resist buying a $50 plaque or a shirt that had their name and basic training squad saying that they made it through basic training.

          • BOK6669 [none/use name]
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            IIRC, the shirts were more t-shirt priced (maybe $27 tops) but they were ugly as sin and if you're coming as a fuzzy you're not making shit anyway to really be spending it.

            They have contractors (imagine toothless fat redneck bubba and his large sons, greasy wife) come in and do their little sales pitched that you're forced to attend. It's very exploitative because you're not spending that money anywhere else, most of the kids have completely drank the Koolaid and are 100% sure they're going to be BFF with everyone they met.

            The plaques and yearbooks(i know lol) I referred to earlier were the more expensive stuff.

            Also, there's a commissary that you can go to after you graduate and the kids with money left, some would blow it all, would instantly buy expensive electronics etc. (ps4's etc.) They really are children still with no life skills, which is fine but it makes more sense to me that they gain those life skills not under a user like the military. blablablalbabla

            As far as the abuse goes, the military has gotten really soft compared to what I heard what happened in early 2000's.

            For example, back then, when you got a ribbon or you promoted, your colleagues would stick the ribbon or patch on you and punch it into you. The ribbons have little spikes to fit onto your uniform. They go into your skin. it ouchie. Very dumb hazing shit. The military learned since that that's not good.

            Like, I would say the bigger problem is that a lot of the people who join are STILL WAY TOO YOUNG. Fresh out of high school means no life experience and it's very easy to be manipulated at that age. Especially if you come from no where, nothing or are already indoctrinated.

            im rambling and tired my bad

          • BOK6669 [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            my ideal army would be that everyone becomes bimbofied as part of their entrance training

            real answer is that's where you learn basic military skills and all the customs and courtesies and all the brainwashing and scaremongering and everyone is mean to you lol

            • nohaybanda [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Lol I know, I just couldn't resist making a stupid joke about it.

              On the topic of brainwashing and basic training, have y'all watched Gwynne Dyer's documentary "War"? The second episode is about the technology of producing soldiers and a must watch IMHO. I think I might post it in c/videos, actually.

                • nohaybanda [he/him]
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                  Dyer's book "War" was one of the things that helped me clarify and solidify my anti-war stance back when I was a lib. I've since seen how all this is fundamentally lacking with out a historical materialist understanding of power, imperialism, andncapitalism of course. But it is still an interesting read/watch.

                  • BOK6669 [none/use name]
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                    that's cool. myself and the people i still associate with lived through it.

                    there's some things about having the experience yourself too that can't be explained by some scholarly source too. i don't really like having back and forth with chapo's about it, my fault for baiting myself into it. military bad tho ferrsure

  • D61 [any]
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    4 years ago

    From the article:

    LaMotta works in the Virginia area for Nationwide Investigations & Security, a Houston-based security services firm, according to company CEO Allen Hollimon and LaMotta's personal website.

    LaMotta's website, which has since been taken down, described him as a "crisis response, security, fugitive recovery agent, bodyguard, security contractor."

    LaMotta was a facilities maintenance technician for the city from August 2014 to May 2019, Chesapeake spokesman Heath Covey told CNN. Cover said he could not provide details about why LaMotta left the job.

    Dude had some pretty sweet gigs it seems.

  • BeanBoy [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    It kills me that they got a quote from his master boss

  • Deadend [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    We are losing to them because they don’t have to read theory. They are told “it’s this guy’s fault.” They see groups doing things and not systems.

    It’s simple and easier to recruit people.

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Part of what you're describing is the fault of leftists who tell people "read theory" instead of putting in the work to explain that theory in a conversation. We have to work harder, but we don't always follow through on that.