There was a WW2 bomber flyover today 'to honour the veterans' and my immediate reaction was 'if I had fought in WW2 I wouldn't want to be reminded of that shit' which rapidly turned into both of them attacking me for not respecting veterans. They both would say they're socialists.

  • Shmyt [he/him,any]
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    4 years ago

    You should always respect and support the troops - the brave veterans of the USSR - for defeating Nazis. :stalin-fancy:

    But nah you're right bombers for WWII vets seems like honouring WWI vets with mortar fire and coloured smoke, or Vietnam vets by setting off sparklers during an easter egg hunt in the woods, or car shaped fireworks for Iraq vets.

    Exploited people who furthered the causes of the imperialist state being 'celebrated' with things most likely to trigger the disorders the state decides not to treat is just such a perfect snapshot of capitalist society. I almost wonder if the reason stuff like VA is so poorly handled is to prevent vets from being able to effectively pass on skills to/join movements against the state.

    • Crucible [he/him, comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Thank you, you put into words a lot of things I was having trouble expressing. Trying to express that the imperial war machine and the exploited people fed into it are different things just wasn't something I was able to express properly, plus they weren't interested in hearing about it. One housemate talks about horseshoe theory every other day and the other confused anarchism for fascism.

      • Shmyt [he/him,any]
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        4 years ago

        Holy shit. I can't imagine living with someone that has such a baby brained take as "fascism and anarchism are the same". Like I can almost undsrstand the anti-communists calling us red-fash because at least there's some shitty crossovers like nazbols who try to actually reinforce that idea, but anarchists? How the fuck could anarchists ever be fascists? These people need some theory, history, and probably an MRI and maybe a priest.

        • Spartacist [he/him]
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          Maybe if you’re a a cartoon, caricature tankie

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Il-2 flyovers are acceptable. Especially if over retirement villages in Saxony.

      • MagisterSinister [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        I often find myself wondering if flyovers are enough for Saxony or if it would be better when they have to rebuild Dresden a second time.

    • Crucible [he/him, comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Absolutely. I'm not sure I handled it as best as I could. Oddly enough, I think this was the first time I experienced the 'fight' side of 'fight of flight' reaction- I didn't acquiesce just because they expected me to and it ended the conversation pretty quickly.

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      don't forgt throwing those same people under the bus the second they dont vote for some corporate dem ghoul. libs are good at that, too

  • AliceBToklas [she/her]
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    plus like even bomber crew were keenly aware of how many innocent people they were killing bombing whole cities and the inaccuracies of most of the campaigns.

  • MagisterSinister [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Compromise: Americans and Brits can keep flying their WW2 bombers for Veteran's Day, but the nose art has to be changed to an antifa catgirl smashing Hitler's skull in and all decals must be replaced with :gold-antifa:

    • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      There was a big controversy in the game War Thunder when they added a modern Japanese helicopter and the playerbase was thoroughly divided on whether or not the company should add an anime girl livery like from this picture

      It would have been hilarious to piss off a playerbase that is at least 20% werhaboos.

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        They ended up doing it. It’s a game I enjoy playing. Has its flaws but so does every other mmo

        • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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          I haven't played in a while because my flight stick configuration is in linux and I've been in windows for some other stuff a lot.

          I love hanging out in air sim flying some WWII war birds desperately trying to energy fight some BF109's and often failing at it when i'm out-turned by a werhaboo.

            • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              I'd have to start over on the japanese tree or put money into it for the premium tree. I need to work on the russian or chinese tree but my most developed tree is the US because those are the warbirds I know the best.

              I mainly fly the p-47 due to the crazy guns and ability to dive.

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  • ufologist [any]
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    Don't you know that as socialists that we have to love the troops and veterans cuz they did it for free college or were tricked or did it for sweet home loans that black veterans couldn't get to live in all white suburbs. We have to lick their boots cuz they will give us a missle or something for our revolution.

    • Moonrise [comrade/them,they/them]
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      4 years ago

      POV: Americans invade your country

      You see american choppers in the bright blue sky, hundreds and hundreds of screaming american soldiers drop from it, you look across the field and see the tanks rolling in. You hear a loud explosion and realise that the shrine you have protected for thousands of years with tooth and nail is destroyed by the empire, you come to the realisation that this is very probably the end of your people who've struggled to survive all these centuries.You realise that very soon there is going to be a river of blood of your people here; white phosphorus and depleted uranium will be shot very soon, deforming babies for decades to come, and millions of your people are gonna be killed. Your millennia old language and religion will be wiped out, you're very likely the last of your kind.

      Suddenly, an American soldier kicks you down, puts his foot on your neck and aims his standard ar-15 on the side of your head all while screaming; you realise you're gonna die, and you won't have to see the destruction of your community that you fostered so carefully all these centuries for.

      Just before he pulls the trigger, you think to yourself, "To be fair to him, he probably had a low GPA in highschool and didnt have a health-care, those are notoriously hard to get in America"

  • Rem [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    I would go back to getting yelled at by liberals for calling myself a socialist if they would stop calling themselves that just for supporting universal healthcare.