bruh are people this fucking dumb to fall for this shit?

The Answer is yes. This is America

  • undernopretext [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Back when I lived in ACTUALLY EXISTING China, I traveled to Xinjiang once and had a conversation with a Uyghur guy about English language education, in fucking old-town Kashgar of all places. His main critique about government educational changes was precisely how English language education was pushed further along the pipe so that by the time kids got linguistic access to the outside world, they would be predisposed to distrust outside info.

    Unless this guy was some kind of East-Turkestani political operative who could sniff out any old chinese-looking tourist as a foreigner, it’s largely inconsistent with contemporary Western alarm bells about the region.

    Also, he would have totally fucked up, because, well, I’m not some grizzled western conflict journo, or my travel papers would have been hella denied. I was 1000% a total fuckin’ tourist.

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        Oh hell yeah. Aside from the regular armed police patrols, nothing was different in the way you were treated if you were a ethnically Han citizen (resident or tourist) or foreign national.

        this was years ago before the Chinese government felt sufficiently sorted out and kicked out all the sex pest "english teachers" (my god may those fuckers rot in hell).

          • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            So a lot of foreign countries hire teachers from English native countries to come in and teach English to their students for a few semesters so they can gain fluency that can only be learned from casual discussion.

            Obviously dogshit pedos use this as an opportunity to prey on kids they're hired to teach.

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                They're not immigrants they're foreign hired labour specialists.

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                    They are not immigrating to the countries they're hired by, they're literally just there to work then leave after their stint is up. Whether they want to immigrate and naturalize or not is entirely a separate topic to the fact they've applied to work the job

                    And back on topic, the demonization comes from the rich western tradition of vermin using their wealth and cultural power to sexually exploit their way through whatever foreign lands they visit. This is why countries that hires foreign language teachers to have such applicators be submitted to astringent standards to weed out possible sexpests.

                      • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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                        You're are an immigrant when your intention is to immigrate, it's literally self-explanatory.

                        And to your second point, I don't know I'm not a Chinese official. The only thing I can certainly say is that by requiring a degree in formal education, as useless as that is, you significantly cut down the pool of eligible applicants through education and/with experience requirements, then you're left over with a statistically significantly decreased risk of hiring a sexpest. Beyond that, it's down to whatever measures the PRC employs domestically to keep out pervs and pedos from positions of educational authority.

                          • Alaskaball [comrade/them]
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                            I hate to be a fuckin lib, but the dictionary definition of immigrant is "a person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country." With immigration being defined as "the action of coming to live permanently in a foreign country."

                            And like I said, I'm not a Chinese official specialized on Chinese law governing on this issue. Conjecture on this without facts simply counterproductive.

            • undernopretext [he/him]
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              oh pal, forget even the child predation angle, it's more like every fucking bar has some sketchy expat talking about his MBA trying to sleazeball his way into people's pants.

              It's gross, creepy, and rapey as all hell.

          • undernopretext [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            The slow increase of travel controls and general "yo if you don't have a good reason to be here, fuck right off" for foreigners, that's all.

          • ABigguhPizzahPieh [none/use name,any]
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            Not Xinjiang in particular but a lot of English teachers in third world countries are sex pests or pedos. They don’t stick around in one place for long, they’re treated with respect, and have access to children. It’s fucked.

      • LeninsRage [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Yeah Radio War Nerd did an episode a while back where they interviewed a Russian journalist who went there as a tourist. Xinjiang is basically a literal police state (as in, there are police with anti-knife attack gear stationed in every small town shop and checkpoints in transit hubs) but you can move relatively freely around the region.