She ain't an imperialist, donno what to tell you all.

https://twitter.com/GuillaumeLong/status/1329836004287639554

  • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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    If you're going to keep saying she's said this repeatedly, let's see some links.

    especially if they refuse to comment nor take action

    Can she unilaterally change U.S. policy towards Venezuela? No? Then it becomes a question of what she's actually able to do. So what is she actually able to do -- that would have any real effect -- that she isn't doing? Is she failing to do anything that wouldn't just immediately be shot down?

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      If you’re going to keep saying she’s said this repeatedly, let’s see some links.

      To start. She could say this a million times and it would not change your opinion.

      So what is she actually able to do – that would have any real effect – that she isn’t doing? Is she failing to do anything that wouldn’t just immediately be shot down?

      The Democratic Party mantra.

      If AOC stayed silent on the issue of Bolivia, I'm sure you would offer the same defense of her. People were back when her only statement on the coup was the photo op.

      I do not care about political opportunism. You can use this same line to uncritically defend any politician. I hear this shit about Trump and Biden all the time.

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        If a politician can't actually do what you want them to do, blaming them is ridiculous.

        To have any sort of worthwhile discussion about this, you have to dig into the reality of what's possible and what's actually been done. That will be different in different situations. Lumping all situations into one "everyone has excuses" bucket is as silly as laying equal blame at a 5-foot person and a 7-foot person for not being able to dunk a basketball.

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          You sound like you are pitching Biden to me.

          I'm not a bourgeois politician. I do not need to do opportunistic political calculations. I don't care about the AOC you imagined in your mind.

          I will support the actions of politicians when they support my political aims. I will criticize them when they don't.

          • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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            Good luck getting anything done without ever compromising or making a tactical calculation. That approach has worked out great for the left.

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              I agree, that's why I voted for Biden in the primary. I'm sure you did too. Or are we only supposed to make the "tactical calculations" you agree with?

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                Then why rip on AOC for not doing something more, when you can't specify what meaningful additional step she could have accomplished?

                • PhaseFour [he/him]
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                  I never said I couldn't specify steps she can take. Introducing a bill to lift sanctions on Venezuela would be a great start.