They did, though. They went from "straight up imperialism" -- occupying and directly ruling parts of the Global South -- to the financial neocolonialism we see today. It's still awful, but by any reasonable measure it's a reduction in imperialism.
Plus, all of those countries were reliant on the arch anticommunist United States. How much did we Gladio their leftist movements, and how much did we leverage them into our imperial projects? A social democratic government in 2025 America won't necessarily look like a social democratic government in 1965 Britain.
European Social Democrats ended imperialism is peak white savior lol
National liberation movements crushed imperialism in their respective nations. The imperialists bribed the comprador bourgeoisie of these nations to maintain economic control after the national movement. The neocolonial governments then de-mobilized the masses with symbols of nationalism.
Your congressional gf ain't ending imperialism sorry
Like all these socdem governments on Britain ,Germany, France and Europe in general in the last half a century that reduced their straight up imperialism ,anti communism or even participation in it when they got into power and had straight up majorities
They went from “straight up imperialism” – occupying and directly ruling parts of the Global South – to the financial neocolonialism we see today. It’s still awful, but by any reasonable measure it’s a reduction in imperialism.
You said "they" (Social Democratic governments) ended straight up imperialism.
There are 54 African countries. Of these 9 countries experienced wars of independence or major uprisings against the colonial authorities. There are a further 3 highly convoluted cases (Congo, Rwanda, Zimbabwe) where the process of becoming independent involved serious violence - although there was no war of independence or major uprising against the colonial authorities. That means 42 countries - 78 percent of African nations - transitioned peacefully to independence.
No, quite a few countries gained independence without anything near Vietnam or WWII.
You can't pass a whole lot with 4 decent people in the House. Assuming we'd be in the exact same spot with a meaningful caucus of decent people is unrealistically pessimistic.
Am I the only one who is unimpressed by this? It's a nice symbolic gesture but really shows the limits of socdem electoralism.
You can still fund the fascists but you have to pretend they'll only use it for democracy.
I don't think this appropriations bill has passed anyway.
It shows the limits of having only a handful of decent members of congress.
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They did, though. They went from "straight up imperialism" -- occupying and directly ruling parts of the Global South -- to the financial neocolonialism we see today. It's still awful, but by any reasonable measure it's a reduction in imperialism.
Plus, all of those countries were reliant on the arch anticommunist United States. How much did we Gladio their leftist movements, and how much did we leverage them into our imperial projects? A social democratic government in 2025 America won't necessarily look like a social democratic government in 1965 Britain.
European Social Democrats ended imperialism is peak white savior lol
National liberation movements crushed imperialism in their respective nations. The imperialists bribed the comprador bourgeoisie of these nations to maintain economic control after the national movement. The neocolonial governments then de-mobilized the masses with symbols of nationalism.
Your congressional gf ain't ending imperialism sorry
Oh good thing I didn't say that, then
What does "reduced" mean
You said "they" (Social Democratic governments) ended straight up imperialism.
Does "reduced" mean "ended"
You know what, have your bad-faith semantic pissing match somewhere else.
You presented it as if the Social democratic government were more progressive, and willingly withdrew their forces.
They withdrew like America withdrew from Vietnam, and Germany withdrew from Russia. Social democracies do not curb imperialism.
When people rise up and overthrow social democratic empires, the imperialists are forced to flee. That says nothing about social democrats.
No, quite a few countries gained independence without anything near Vietnam or WWII.
Given what I know about Somalia & Sudan, their definition of "peaceful" is something else lol
Yes, if only we would slap more symbolic gestures onto the side of American imperialism
You can't pass a whole lot with 4 decent people in the House. Assuming we'd be in the exact same spot with a meaningful caucus of decent people is unrealistically pessimistic.