She ain't an imperialist, donno what to tell you all.

https://twitter.com/GuillaumeLong/status/1329836004287639554

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    Obama ran on lifting sanctions against Cuba, and it was incredibly popular.

    Biden ran on re-entering the Iran Nuclear Deal, which lifts sanctions on Iran.

    Your "tactics" are just "prioritize things that benefit me." It's incredibly obvious.

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      Obama ran on healthcare. Biden ran on "remember Obama?"

      Americans are notoriously ignorant about the rest of the world. Foreign policy in elections is more about talking points than anything substantive. It's mostly trap questions that voters will give you no credit for acing.

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        Then there's no reason AOC should be silent on the US sanctions regime.

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          It’s mostly trap questions that voters will give you no credit for acing.

          There's no benefit -- nothing will pass, and she will gain no supporters even if she makes the best argument possible -- and she will get dragged through the :vuvuzela: mud by even non-chud media if she breaks ranks.

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            There's no benefit to standing up for the people oppressed by the government you represent.

            You are probably the most evil person who posts here regularly.

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              You are probably the most evil person who posts here regularly.

              How do you hope to get anything done if you're that far detached from reality? Calling other leftists evil for having the gall to point out that politicians make compromises is cop shit.

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                You aren't pointing out politicians make compromises. I've said that several times already.

                You are saying AOC's line on Venezuela is good, correct, and criticizing it is wrong.

                I will support the actions of politicians when they support my political aims. I will criticize them when they don’t.

                This is what you are arguing against.

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                  You are saying AOC’s line on Venezuela is good, correct

                  No, I'm saying that it's understandable for politicians to give non-answers when no movement on the issue is possible, and when you can only lose ground by getting drawn in to a discussion. I'm saying we shouldn't rake one of the furthest-left politicians in the country over the coals because they're making an understandable compromise on such an issue.

                  You're not just arguing against that, you're calling that evil. Get your head out of your ass and go talk to someone who isn't a terminally-online leftist.

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                    I’m saying that it’s understandable for politicians to give non-answers when no movement on the issue is possible

                    The Democrats have removed sanctions on Venezuela before during Chavez's leadership. It is significantly more "possible" than Medicare for All or Green New Deal. The Democratic Party would not exist without the medical industry or the oil industry.

                    You don't see me bringing this fact up to be like "See? AOC should not talk about these things at all! She should stick to what's possible." Because that is reactionary nonsense you hear from people trying to stonewall progress.

                    You refuse to admit that because you care about those issues, and you do not care about the people suffering under the US sanction regime.

                    That is why you are fucking evil. You are aware of how the Democrats function. But you hold out hope that if your favorite politician does imperialism good enough, they'll give you health care.