hmmm maybe we shouldnt let companies and people sell whatever the fuck they want
i will never understand the urge to make the "ultimate challenge" level of spicy "food"
they don't have any taste or anything
it's like drinking pepperspray
seems like some shit for marketing to toxic masculinityi don't blame the kid though obviously, 14 is not an age where people make great decisions and a food being sold legitimately straight up killing you would be the last thing on anyone's mind
I mean, Buldak noodles are supposed to be something like that, but they legitimately do taste good. They are exactly at the point where it is actually painful to eat, but not too much to enjoy it. I have heard they have variants that are 2-4x as spicy and do not intend to try them.
x4 spicy are actually milder, forget what it refers to. I keep a bunch of x2 spicy on hand though, can get them at like $1.50 each sometimes and they are great. I'll add chicken nuggets or fried tofu and extra soy sauce to tone down the heat somewhat. 8,000 scoville or so.
x1 is really good, but the nice thing about x2 is that because it's so strong it'll stay reasonably spicy even as you add in meat and veggies. But x1 I can just eat straight as fast as I want, while I need milk or ice cream if I eat x2 too fast even with the extra stuff.
Maybe? I kinda wanted to try one just to see what my tolerance is. All my meals are spicy, I absolutely love spicy food, and I've wanted to grow some ghost peppers in my yard (though I haven't because I worry the neighbor's dog might get into it and get hurt). Maybe there's some element of toxic masculinity in it, I definitely would brag if I ate one after letting people laught at my pain.
But I've never heard of someone dying before. Worst I have heard was someone passing out at convention, but waking up just fine - I had assumed that was just from the pain. A lot of the adventurousness of ultra-spicy foods comes from knowing it's safe (so long you don't get any in your eyes, wear googles like a dork), so knowing it's even possible to die takes away a lot of the fun.
I like very spicy peppers but mostly for the purpose of not needing to change the flavor of a dish in order to kick up the spice a bit
That said I don't know anyone personally who has higher tolerance for peppers
I've wanted to grow some ghost peppers in my yard (though I haven't because I worry the neighbor's dog might get into it and get hurt)
Anything that would be bothered by the capsaicin would keep away due to the smell. Ghost peppers grown in a garden also aren't going to be ridiculously hot: I've grown them before and actively eaten them fresh off the plant and in my experience they don't get particularly hot unless put under nutritional and water stress.
i also truly can't say I've heard of someone dying from spicy food. Someone on Hot Ones is gonna die i guess. it'll be a celeb though so that's more fun at least.
It can be bad if you asthma or similar respiratory issues, but other than that capsaicin is generally safe, though it is technically a neurotoxin.
seems like some shit for marketing to toxic masculinity
It is. That's all it is.
I tried one of these last year. Someone got it for me, because I like spicy food, and I felt obligated to try it because it was a chip.
Absolutely miserable experience. There's no joy in the one chip challenge, it's just a disgusting stale dorito that makes you feel awful. I have a hard time enjoying any "hot sauces" that go beyond scotch bonnets, because they all just start tasting like shit.
I'm starting the "hold your tongue on a hot stove for 10 minutes" challenge
i didnt realize you could actually die (or have any actual physical harm, really) from something being too spicey
Usually it's not the spiciness itself that gets you, but certain medical conditions can be aggravated by it since that high of a scoville unit basically triggers all of the body's pain receptors
yeah that makes sense. if the kid had some condition they werent aware of maybe that's what happeend
this chip is fuckin insane. i do wonder what the autopsy will say. Did the chip cause cardiac arrest in a 14 year old or something? Fuckin crazy. I saw some videos of this "challenge" but it was all adults.
Who knows. Bodies are weird and horrific. I did here from a nurse that some brave adventurer chewed and swallowed a 9,000,00 scoville gummy bear at a middle school this week. wonder how that will turn out.
Just for reference, pure capsaicin is 16 million scoville
So someone made a candy where over half of its mass is capsaicin. Even if you can stand the heat that cannot possibly taste good
Capsaicin olioresin which is basically a syrup of sorts made from the extracted oils will cause skin burns.
I used to have a job mixing oils to make fragrants mostly but we occasionally made the solution that went into police grade pepper spray and it was like 1 part olioresin capsaicin to 4 parts solvent. No one ever wanted to make the stuff so I did. I got the olioresin on my skin one time. It wasn't a lot. Just a few drops but it gave me something between a first and second degree burn.
I still eat a ton of spicy food though but only because I'm addicted and I hate myself.
I like spicy food. I'll eat the hottest hot sauces on the planet for enjoyment.
I tried that gummy bear. I didn't even eat the whole thing. I cut it into four pieces and shared it with three friends. NEVER AGAIN. It's by far the spiciest thing I've ever tasted. It gets stuck in your teeth and keeps leaching spicy into your mouth for the next hour. I don't have words to describe it properly except to say I will never do that again.
Reaper Squeezings, Da Bomb, The End, Dave's Insanity, The Last Dab, etc. I would eat again but I will never touch that gummy knowing what I know now.
We need to expand the "Challenge" aspect in to a full fledged ritual experience where you commune with god while you're screaming and rolling on the floor from the pain. Like cut it down to 8,999,999 scovilles and where that last scoville was slip in a little LSD or pcilocybin so when you come out the other side you can like speak to trees or something.
putting LSD into spicy challenges so people start coming up just as the lingering pain wears off
positively fiendish
Oh man I don't really fuck with hallucinogens anymore except for 2C-B. I love the visuals but I am not equipped for the mind fuck.
I learned to pace myself after I had the Buldak "extra spicy" ramen or whatever it's called and my teeth started to hurt.
Pain can cause inflammation, hyperventilation, disruptions to heartbeat, a spike in blood pressure, and many other things that you probably know can lead to death in someone with a vulnerability
I hate that this even exists, that there's infrastructure for manufacturing and distributing it, that people spend time working on it. it just sucks, it's just food that is not good on purpose
Americans will see other cultures doing something that uncomfortably clashes w/ their lifestyle (eating spicy foods) and assume it must be masochism. Then they start to replicate it cynically with an emphasis on the "challenge" aspect. The USA is really something else
I don’t really think it’s that deep. People like spicy things and like things that say they are really spicy. Same thing as with sour candy
This entire thread is way fucking overblown. As if a spicy corn chip trinket creates any food waste or whatever the fuck over the million other stupid, boring ways we waste shit
I see that energy drink can you and millions of other people couldn't be bothered to recycle.
By those standards the only good thing you could do for the environment is turn yourself into fertiliser.
Consumer waste is nothing, nothing compared to industrial waste. I don't drink anything from a can (just as a matter of coincidence) but none of the people who do and hypothetically don't recycle harm the environment as the manufacturing plants dedicated to tasteless spice masochism.
Hey, at least they don't have to be made to do it by law.
Western dudebros use hot peppers to cook real food that's actually tasty challenge (impossible)
tell me about it, i feel like getting indian food with a spice level of 3 out of 6 should be spicy but way too often its not shit, probably cause of white people.
I'm sure there are hot sauces out there that are just as hot. Is it the products fault or the social media platforms that are hosting these stupid challenges? I remember some stupid ones, like kids setting themselves on fire with rubbing alcohol. Did Paqui marketing staff start the challenge?
I mean, they designed the chip as a thing to be eaten. It doesn't appear that the marketing made the child eat it in a way that was different from anyone else.
The chip has a warning label that it’s not intended for children, pregnant people, people with underlying health conditions. Really kind of hard to blame the company here unless they were pushing the challenge or marketing to kids
Still seems kind of thin to me, especially considering teens' proclivities to test boundaries and try to emulate adults. I hope you're not saying this is the kid's fault.
I think it’s just a senseless tragedy. Do you want to ban alcohol too because teens want to drink?
I think there’s a far far stronger argument to ban alcohol than hot chips
Damn didn’t know we were doing prohibition up in here, went so well last time
Yeah, it actually did help the world and the people a lot during the Prohibition period. Alcohol related health issues went significantly down and so did hospital visits for liver related issues. The problem was that enforcement wasn’t tough enough so that people still got away with it
unless they were pushing the challenge or marketing to kids
The "challenge" part of it is clearly marketed at kids (it's not exclusively kids who do viral challenges like this, but it's predominantly kids).
the market self regulates
