I'm a cis dude, but only bc that's what is easiest. If everyone were to collectively decide I was no longer a cis dude I wouldn't care. I don't really have preferred pronouns but I usually just do he/him cause I don't really care and that's what I present as. I should probably just consider myself agender, but again that seems like too much effort, so eh.

  • evilgiraffemonkey [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    This is what I don't really get about nonbinary/agender/etc people, because I don't feel a deep connection to being a man, and act feminine or masculine as I please, but it seems like a lot of work to make it a thing, you know? Can any non binary/agender/etc people weigh in? Is it more than that for you? What made you declare yourself not a man or a woman?

    • PermaculturalMarxist [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      I'll lead my comment by clarifying that you don't need dysphoria to be trans and that at the end of the day it comes from self-understanding, but for me it was dysphoria. I'd say it's pretty mild and bearable in my case, but it is undeniably present and cis people by definition don't really have that experience.

      • evilgiraffemonkey [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Trans people are not the same as agender/nonbinary, right? Or do I have something mixed up? That's interesting though, thank you for responding

        • PermaculturalMarxist [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          words are a fuck, but the way I understand it is that trans = non-cis (as in being a different gender than the one assigned to you at birth), justified by this idea that all trans people share this contradiction between their assigned gender and their real gender. Of course, not all enbies call themselves trans or would consider themselves that way, but that is how I see it.

    • PapaEmeritusIII [any]
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      4 years ago

      I’m agender and I feel more or less the same way you do. I haven’t really declared myself not a man or a woman, seeing as how I’m mostly in the closet. One day I just realized that describing myself as agender makes a lot more sense to me than describing myself as my AGAB (assigned gender at birth).

      • evilgiraffemonkey [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Interesting. When people refer to you as your AGAB, is in some way uncomfortable/negative?

        • PapaEmeritusIII [any]
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          4 years ago

          A little bit, yeah. But not enough for me to want to deal with coming out of the closet.