• DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    The NYPD's budget is $6 billion. I literally cannot fathom how not shooting black people in the streets like dogs would be more expensive than that.

      • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        -FARE AVOIDANCE DETECTED. DISPATCHING FARE ENFORCEMENT DRONES. ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS PLEASE LAY FLAT ON THE GROUND WITH YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR NECK. FARE VIOLATIONS WILL RESULT IN CAPITOL PUNISHMENT-

    • acealeam [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      the problem is, these issues come from a perception of an unsafe working environment. our boys in blue deserve the safety of working from home in these trying times. i propose, we give every police department a predator drone so they can carry out their duties safely with less risk of injury for everyone involved.

  • hotcouchguy [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Any time any number gets smaller, that's austerity, and austerity is bad (but only in this specific case)

    • Cherufe [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Number needs to be bigger, case in point: one billion americans

  • cum_drinker69 [any]
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    4 years ago

    This doesn't really need to be said, but defunding a domestic paramilitary force is not fucking austerity, you stupid bald loser.

  • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Calling the police "public services" is like calling taco bell mexican food. Sorta true, but no, not really. Maybe by definition sure, but in practice? In tons of communities you'd be laughed at for suggesting it is or they are.

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    lol it's not like Matty Glesias doesn't know that the idea is for police funding to be shifted to social programs. just more bad-faith performative bullshit to curry favor with his online peer group. his life is twitter, and it must be hell.

  • acealeam [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Its not even like defund the police is a "policy slogan" or whatever. It was created as a demand organically on the streets because black people are getting murdered. Sorry we're not all DC elites, skillful in the delicate arts of "slogan creation"

    • shitstorm [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      They also conveniently don't mention the first part of that chant.

      "No justice, no peace."

      • NonWonderDog [he/him]
        1·
        4 years ago

        Which was just another watering down.

        The chants went from "no justice, no peace; fuck the police" and "abolish the police" to "defund the police." That was the workshopped compromise to avoid scaring libs too much.

        And now we're supposed to accept "reform the police (by giving them money for diversity training and body cameras)" or something.

        • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
          1·
          4 years ago

          Going from "fuck the police" to "defund/abolish" the police isn't watering down; it's getting more specific, which is good.

          "Fuck the police" doesn't tell anyone what to do. It's not a policy statement. Now "defund" or "abolish"? Whatever your criticisms of those statements, you're at least starting to talk in terms of a specific policy goal.

  • Woly [any]
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    4 years ago

    Ahh yes, shooting people IS cheaper than not shooting them, once you calculate extra gas costs from carrying all that unused lead around in your cop car. Basically people who want less police murder are pro global warming, how short sited of them. 😏

  • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
    1·
    4 years ago

    Truthfully most people think defund the police is hardly different than just straight up saying abolish the police, and that massively scares people. Crime dramatisation is a huge part of American media culture.

    Hasans take was definitely the best that you need to sound like a neoliberal wonk when talking about this issue or else people just freak out. You can even straight up say police abolition if you mirror the wonk aesthetic.

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Hasans take was definitely the best that you need to sound like a neoliberal wonk when talking about this issue or else people just freak out.

      Can you link to this, or describe it in more depth?

  • half_giraffe [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    better policing will be more costly than bad policing not cheaper

    "More costly" to Matty is literally just a comparison of like the salary between a social worker and a police officer. I guess if you refuse to tally up the societal (and monetary, lol) costs of locking up, terrorizing, and murdering an entire class of people then sorry socialists but economics 101 says we have to do the bad policing.

    • read_freire [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      a comparison of like the salary between a social worker and a police officer

      you'd be hard pressed to find a place where cops don't make more than social workers

    • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah, just what they spend on gear, APCs and other vehicles alone, nevermind their actual salary, far outpaced any other public service without a doubt. Matty is so disingenuous it hurts, I fucking can't stand that punk ass

  • MasterCombine [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    “Defunding the police = austerity” is not a take I was expecting.

    • lvysaur [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Xi and the boys about to nuke America because the swine flu decimated our pork herds