I swear unanimous appreciation of china was a pretty common sentiment and now I'm consistently seeing upbeared comments about how china isn't and never was a socialist state, and how actually their use of markets is as bad if not worse than america. What's going on? IDK what to think or what side I'm on here but it just seems like opinions fundamentally changed so quickly, it's weird.
Yeah I wonder why censorship is necessary considering that the entire world is planning on holocausting China
My favorite part about these takes is to imagine real life Adam Sandler typing these.
Adam Sandler as a Maoist would be a decent cumtown bit
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Jack and Jill but instead of being reactionary it’s about the dangers of imperialism
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This is so far removed from reality holy shit
It is not at all. have you seen the state department stance on China? They're weaponizing the world against China through the trans pacific partnership. They want economic and total warfare with China for being a third world country that dared to oppose international whiteness and imperialism. Please stop believing in state department lies about China and please stop emboldening the myths that are spread by the CIA on this site and many other sites.
What lies am I believing? I don't know what the hell your statement department says, I'm not American, I'm doing my own research on the country and asking my actually Chinese language partner about her country's politics.
I am aware that the US wants to rally it's allies against China, but extrapolating that to "the entire world wants to holocaust China" is absolutely bizarre and completely besides the point I was originally making, how in the world is the government banning wikipedia, google and youtube for their own people in any way an appropriate reaction to that?
Yeah banning those media is a good idea. Have you seen the Americans who get sucked into YouTube algorithm. Q comes out the other end. Go on wiki and research anything about China. It’s highly sinophobic.
Because Google, Wikipedia, and Youtube are filled with reactionaries, counterrevolutionaries, and imperialists. These sites push the genocide lie on china, through the Xijing region lie and the famine lie. They acknowledge the war criminals on the island of formosa as an independent state. They're trying to turn the Chinese citizens against the government. They already did that with Hong Kong. Also, the US state department influences your country as well. That entire world thing was hyperbole, and I apologize
If Hitler had never got in the way I guarantee you the rest of the world would have rallied together to crush the USSR in a full on military campaign. What makes you believe they wouldn't do the same to China now that it is clearly the rising power of the 21st century?
In principle I agree, but everyone important has nukes now. 15830347th generation warfare is not fought with "full on military campaigns", when sanctions are so much more effective.
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That is so long as nations do not begin to use tactical nukes. Also as I've said in another comment the situation of MAD that we've experienced has been hinged on the fact of Western Supremacy. In retrospect it is very obvious that the Western powers were the aggressors in the cold war which makes sense as the US was the larger super power, but what happens when that is no longer the case? When capital has nothing to loose since China will become the leading super power does it continue to rely on MAD? I would hope so, but something tells me that's not necessarily true.
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I think that's true if it is delivered by a nation state in an obvious manner, but let me answer your question with another. If a dirty bomb were to go off in NYC do you think the world would instantly be consumed in hell fire? Do you really think we would just start launching nukes at all our enemies? I don't think so. Using non state actors to set off a dirty bomb would do two things. It would eventually normalize tactical nukes and also establish paramilitaries as a legitimate threat that the US could use as a way to exert influence, but without the hang ups of using obvious military personnel. It's exactly what they already do across the globe right now.
At that point, MAD would be off the table because I doubt any established nation would stop the world from turning for what can easily be blamed on terrorists.
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I disagree with a lot of their censorship, but censoring Google, Wikipedia and YouTube is absolutely the right move. Those are all (Wikipedia to a lesser extent, but still not great) hell-sites that have poisoned the minds of millions upon millions of people, why on Earth would they allow that shit in their country??
"People who disagree with me are feds" is blaming shit on Soros agents for leftists.
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Except it’s true though.
Yeah, that's what notanazi1488 on twitter says too.
yes I’m just as bad as a Nazi thanks.
Maybe the point is not that you're as bad as a Nazi but that difference of opinions on China on a site dedicated to fucking the bunny cop isn't because of feds but because you won't find any community on the internet where there are 10000 users who think the same about anything.
But if the casus belli to start the nukes will be a comment from Garfield_Cumfart69 you can desecrate my corpse.
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I'll be ready to do so.
Recognizing imperialism is one thing but China has allies.
Not enough, sadly. And the more white people on here criticize POC third world countries, the less allies China will gain.
I think you overestimate our influence.
I really don't. The CIA is on here, that means they're already picking targets.
then why are you here?
Because there are still quite a lot of leftists, and I want to make a stand against imperialism here
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Reflexes. I use the phrase anti imperialism a lot and my muscle memory is apparently a trot.
you're delusional
I'm really not. I just support China.
You shouldn't support things you aint never gonna be a part of fam, and also nobody is planning on holocausting China, that's completely delusional and is a libidinal ass theory you only want to be true because it's sexier than the boring realities of modern great power competition
That line was hyperbole. But the US is rabid against the people of China
nah
Have you been on Reddit... ever?
Why would it matter? It's reddit. Most Americans have never heard of reddit, nontheless use it
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Most of reddit is le memes, so that doesn't even factor m8. It's a site used by nerds and that's about it most of whom are grillers who don't care
Okay fine. Quote from my brother a “small business owner” in America “I HATE THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY”
You can throw anecdotes at me all day I anecdotally can tell you most people literally don't care
Hahahahaha you’re a goof. Most people don’t care about anything. What a great fucking rebuttal. That doesn’t mean they ain’t sinophobic and hate Chinese people. They do.
Hate requires energy, energy most people literally do not have. I know you have this libidinal ass desire for the world to be a psychotic and cold place but I promise ye it's way more boring
Racism doesn’t exist people are just banal towards black people in America. That’s why they get thrown in jail at obscene rates. Forced into poverty. And the state steals everything from them.
Black people actually y'know, live here. There's like 4 places in this whole country where Chinese people do. totally different circumstances
:matt: by all means though, keep being libidinal on main. ttly doesnt seem weird or anything :matt:
Yes Chinese people don’t live in America and the government has never been racist towards them and doesn’t currently do so. Shut the fuck up bitch. Keep listening to Cushvlogs ya dweeb
ok. You keep getting mad at randos online, that'll totally usher in socialism some day!
Hopefully stops you from being a bitch that denies racism
Are you a rightist?
no? we're on chapo.chat my dude. I just aint as terminally online I guess
By your logic, would that mean if you're straight you shouldn't support gay rights because they you'll never be a part of their community? And people who don't have uteruses shouldn't support abortion rights?
what does this mean lol
idk man I'm sleep deprived just dont be a stan and dont let the libidinal desire to see blood soaked conflict and violence in a modern era where such things are impossible between great powers is my point
Oh i see. interesting, i see the pro-china side push back on the anti-china stuff out of the desire to keep things peaceful - ie - anti-imperialism and being concerned about the increase in hate crimes toward asians because of the anti-China sentiment and propaganda.
Perhaps you've seen different pro-china posts than i have though.
If we were on reddit that'd be understandable, but we aint. We're a small, obscure subreddit-in-exile and you can let your hair down and not take online shit so bloody serious here. I promise, nobody is gonna read "Hey china doesn't allow unions" on here and go curbstomp some little old lady to death. Promise
I'm having trouble relating this to your original point that we shouldn't support China at all. Do you agree with me or are you changing your mind?
people are free to downvote and upbear posts and that's what makes this on the front page. I upbeared the anti-union post because i thought it was a good point and POLITELY asked for sources. No one is saying "don't make anti-china posts" here from what i've seen at all.
The rest of your comment is good, but this is way off base.
I mean "support" in the weeby way this dude is doing. I mean he calls Iran an "arab socialist republic" somewhere around here too he's clearly a very young and misinformed person
That's a weird take.