Absolutely. China is a miraculous state. They learned from all the USSRs mistakes and not only persisted in a hostile world, but thrived. I feel that their position also allowed for the continuation of socialist/communist experiments in the region as well. Vietnam, Laos, and the DPRK would have been sanctioned to death without China being a buffer state between them and the imperialists.
I legit think that China is in the best position to actually rid the world of capitalism. Or at least passively support places that decide to try locally. They won't sanction revolutionary states like everyone else.
Yes, and because they were not too on the nose about progressing communism, the west misread that as less commitment to the cause and in turn thought they were on the same side as the CCP since Deng Xiaoping, when in fact greedy capitalist investment was tricked into handing over tech and resources to China to build them up to a status that they can stand on their own and can if they want to rival the US.
I don't think they really want to do that though(not yet at least), I think their point is to show through their undeniable advances for their peoples how a socialist(aspiring communist) society can be vastly superior in providing for its people and how we have it completely ass backwards on basically anything when it comes to how we organise society.
They're doing a bang up job so far haha. I don't think there's much internal dissent right now, and one of the greatest threats to the CCP would be allowing western educated citizens into the politiboro. Even that is starting to seem less dangerous now. With the west in disarray and students studying overseas rushing back to China as they watch the West make a perfect example of why capitalism can not be allowed to exist.
Amazing how if you generally try to make things better for the people instead of milking them for every last penny, they might actually like you, funny how that works, right?
This is also why the issues created around Xinjiang and HK are drilled so hard by western governments and media, because China cannot be portrayed in an overall good light or it would make it obvious that liberal democracy is not the end all be all. And they fear that very much. For the last 30 years they were always able to say look we tried this communism thing in Russia, didn't work out, was horrible.
But now all of a sudden a rising China appears on the horizon, eradicating poverty and hunger in a population of 1.5 billion, while the US has tens of millions who don't even know how to come up with enough money for adequate food for them and their families. In Germany, a population of about 80 million, we have almost 3 million children growing up in poverty.
It is absurd and everything is on its head, our world is completely wrong.
China, by virtue of existing, serves as a light with which to reveal the contradictions of capitalism. They're literally serving as "the shining city of the hill" that America claims it is.
Absolutely. China is a miraculous state. They learned from all the USSRs mistakes and not only persisted in a hostile world, but thrived. I feel that their position also allowed for the continuation of socialist/communist experiments in the region as well. Vietnam, Laos, and the DPRK would have been sanctioned to death without China being a buffer state between them and the imperialists.
I legit think that China is in the best position to actually rid the world of capitalism. Or at least passively support places that decide to try locally. They won't sanction revolutionary states like everyone else.
Yes, and because they were not too on the nose about progressing communism, the west misread that as less commitment to the cause and in turn thought they were on the same side as the CCP since Deng Xiaoping, when in fact greedy capitalist investment was tricked into handing over tech and resources to China to build them up to a status that they can stand on their own and can if they want to rival the US.
I don't think they really want to do that though(not yet at least), I think their point is to show through their undeniable advances for their peoples how a socialist(aspiring communist) society can be vastly superior in providing for its people and how we have it completely ass backwards on basically anything when it comes to how we organise society.
They're doing a bang up job so far haha. I don't think there's much internal dissent right now, and one of the greatest threats to the CCP would be allowing western educated citizens into the politiboro. Even that is starting to seem less dangerous now. With the west in disarray and students studying overseas rushing back to China as they watch the West make a perfect example of why capitalism can not be allowed to exist.
Amazing how if you generally try to make things better for the people instead of milking them for every last penny, they might actually like you, funny how that works, right?
This is also why the issues created around Xinjiang and HK are drilled so hard by western governments and media, because China cannot be portrayed in an overall good light or it would make it obvious that liberal democracy is not the end all be all. And they fear that very much. For the last 30 years they were always able to say look we tried this communism thing in Russia, didn't work out, was horrible.
But now all of a sudden a rising China appears on the horizon, eradicating poverty and hunger in a population of 1.5 billion, while the US has tens of millions who don't even know how to come up with enough money for adequate food for them and their families. In Germany, a population of about 80 million, we have almost 3 million children growing up in poverty.
It is absurd and everything is on its head, our world is completely wrong.
China, by virtue of existing, serves as a light with which to reveal the contradictions of capitalism. They're literally serving as "the shining city of the hill" that America claims it is.
Exactly. :mao-aggro-shining:
Good talk comrade 🇨🇳
Yes, it is always nice to have a productive discussion I have to say. :sankara-salute:
Also helps to organise some thoughts here and there.