folks were working together tryna build a way to heaven and god gets all pissed off that people won't need him anymore and destroys the whole thing and makes sure people can't organize against him by making everybody speak different languages.

        • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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          It’s kinda genuinely confusing ideology.

          Like god exists and is awesome but the world we live in was created by a half ass dickhole god who’s evil, but also sorta not evil? So literally the material world is evil and the only way to escape it is to learn some “secret truth” but we do that either by starving ourselves to death or having giant orgies. Or both.

          It’s cool but I kinda feel like I don’t have the time to study it.

          • RNAi [he/him]
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            Famished orgies aren't my thing, I like eating to refuel

            • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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              Eating food pulls you farther from Gnosis, but so does not having sex, since sex connects you with the vibrant soul of another being created by God! So you must keep fucking till you pass out from malnutrition.

    • thefunkycomitatus [he/him,they/them]
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      I was thinking about this the other day, and I wish I wrote it down because I can't remember all of it. Like you know how there's that explanation about being an atheist to a religious person? You ask them if they believe in other gods and they say no. Then you tell them that they're atheistic about every other religion but you take it one step further. Well it occurred to me that was a lot like explaining to Liberals why you're a communist. I Just can't fucking remember how I set up the argument.

      Edit: I think I remember. The argument was against Progressives. Progressives don't believe in unrestrained capitalism. So they understand being critical of capitalism and not accepting it as an economic system. Leftist take it one step further and just don't believe in capitalism at all. So it's not like the idea of not trusting capitalism is foreign to them, they just don't follow the logic far enough. The same way Christians realize that religions are wrong but they don't go far enough to include their religion. Something like that anyways. Probably not very insightful or helpful lol.

    • AStonedApe [they/them]
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      Idk, it's hard for me to look at 1st century Christianity and not get massive communism vibes. I favor liberation of religions instead of their destruction.

  • worker_democracy [they/them]
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    It's about how the Bourgeoisie use racism and other false divisions to keep the Working Class from organizing.

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    OT God is just a bit of a cunt at all times, and the majority of things he does are just throwing a tantrum or being powermad.

    Like, the reason he demands circumcision is "to prove that you really love me" - insecure prick.

    He full on baits someone into killing his son before at the last second doing the BC equivalent of "DW BRO IT WAS JUST A PRANK IT'S FOR YOUTUBE"

    Oh and don't forget the whole FLOOD thing. Literal genocide just because he didn't like how some people were living.

    Breaking up a union is the LEAST of his shitheadery.

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      OT god is also a supporter of bald kings, sending bears to maul children mocking a bald guy.

      “From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking up the path, some small boys came out of the city and harassed him, chanting, ‘Go up, baldy! Go up, baldy!’ He turned around, looked at them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two female bears came out of the woods and mauled 42 of the children.”

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    Is proof that god is a selfcentered bitch and I'm glad we killed and dethroned it

  • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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    It's one myth in a body of mythology. Bodies of mythology don't have to be completely coherent; Genesis was written by several different authors and then revised by many more. The objective pf a myth is more about storytelling, than purely moralism and description. Stories can influence how we think about things, though, so we have to examine them be careful about how we present them.

    One alternate explanation for the myth is that the Tower of Babel was a ziggurat, undertaken by adherents of the Sumerian religion.

  • Zodiark [he/him]
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    It helps to conceive of God as a being closer to a transcendental reality/OS than as a person or invisible overlord.

    I thought the story of Babel was how arrogance and idolatry of self-worship was the roots of a civilization's own destruction, and from that ruination came different nations and tribes to survive and continue past that point. A lesson, like the story/book of Job, about the reminder of a transient and humble nature of humanity needing to know its limits lest it destroys itself, especially if you pick a fight with the force behind the force of nature. You can modernize this by example people assuming the immortality of humanity in the face of spewing fossil fuels and accelerated climate change. God is saying Know your limits, I think.

    Similar to the Cain & Abel story being about how a struggle between the farmer (agricultural civilization) and a shepherd (nomadic civilization) reflected the relationships between city-dwelling farmers and field-dwelling shepherds , where conflict first emerges against fellow humans. (metaphorically, the first disputes with agricultural people and nomadic people)

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    it's proof that the priests who wrote the story were