With the membership approaching 100k, and with the structure of the organization being democratic and up for revision given a strong enough push from the internal caucuses, why are there still unaffiliated american socialists?
 I think the predominate view on this website is that DSA is a monolithic organization that is simply full of radlibs and social democrats or democratic socialists, however the richness of the caucuses and the amount of local marxist caucuses which are attempting to reform the DSA is in my opinion largely ignored here.
 The Democratic Socialists of America is *our* organization as socialists of america and if you critique it without affiliating yourself and without acting to change it, than what are you truly doing? It is definitely one of the twelve types of liberalism for you criticize in private but not to the collective itself. Problems you have with the DSA from your critical perspective should be brought up every month at your local general meeting. Critique from outside the organization, as if you were not a socialist, is not going to affect change. 

tl;dr: as a chapo who didn’t join DSA for years bc of the stigma here calling them radlibs, i ask of you, why are you seriously not in the DSA. for if you don’t like it, then join and act in the oppositional caucuses; and if you do like it but just haven’t joined, then come on comrade follow suit.

edit: This struggle session has been quite bountiful I will say. We have learned that there are three instances in the DSA's constitution that allow for (1) the expulsion of members that are under the discipline of democratic-centralist organizations (2) local charters will be revoked if the majority of members become under the discipline of democratic-centralism and that (3) local youth charters will be revoked if majority of members become. dem-cent.

  • Elohim [comrade/them]
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    Something to consider for those of us who appreciate the democratic centralism organizations

    Also knows as communists. They expel communists. Because they are anti-communist and pro-American regime change

    https://thegrayzone.com/2019/07/06/dsa-jacobin-iso-socialism-conference-us-funded-regime-change/

    • mrbigcheese [he/him]
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      here's some of the marxist and communist caucuses in DSA

      https://communistcaucus.com

      https://reformandrevolution.org

      https://breadandrosesdsa.org

      https://classunity.org

      https://twitter.com/revpower_dsa

      https://dsaemerge.org

      https://redstarsf.org

      https://redcaucus.org

      E: also since this person is spamming this link everywhere and i know half the people upvoting it havent even read past the headline i'll leave this dsa forums discussion on it here too if anyone wants to read through it more because while i like the grayzone and Ben and Blumenthal overall i think this article is largely disingenuous in its framing and this person is completely incoherent in their posts claiming shit like "all dsa leaders are taking funding from the NED" and other ridiculous shit, which probably means they didnt even read the article themselves.

      • weshallovercum [any]
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        Why does a small organization of 70,000 socialists have EIGHT different groups of marxists trying to push it left? Like jesus christ, why dont they all merge? They have the same goal right?

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          The first 4 work on different things mostly, one is a ydsa caucus, and 3 are local caucuses.

      • Elohim [comrade/them]
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        All components of the synthetic imperialist western left

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            Why do you hold conferences with pro-regime change speakers and funding from the NED?

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                PSL isn’t cringe. Join them instead and stop being a DSA chauvinist

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                  lol i didnt even talk about my ideologies do you even know what the word chauvinist means?

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                    I’m talking about social-chauvinists as Lenin described them. Social reformist nationalists and imperialists. Socialism for me, imperialism and colonialism for thee. The lack of international proletarian solidarity in favor of opportunistic short—term reforms. The tendency that makes up DSA at its very core.

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        Oh sorry, they reserve the right to ban communists and shut down their chapters if they get a little tooo principled and communist