Well, in an ideal society this person wouldn't exist, but whatever.
https://twitter.com/HonourableHappy/status/1341328673547411458
Seriously, stuff like this is why I'll talk all day about how prisons should be radically reformed in a million major ways, but I still won't call myself a prison abolitionist. Beyond the more immediate issue of "you're always going to have some people commit serious crimes; what do you do with them?", how are you supposed to abolish capitalism without a way to remove reactionaries from any sort of position of power?
We can humanely protect the revolution and hopefully show people how to see themselves as the same as their fellow human beings. But, the person who has no remorse for the suffering of others as a byproduct of their capitalist accumulation is just as dangerous, if not more dangerous than a serial killer.
We can humanely protect the revolution and hopefully show people how to see themselves as the same as their fellow human beings.
Absolutely. However, I don't see any way to accomplish that without at least the backstop of a custodial institution that -- no matter how humane it gets -- is still essentially a prison.
Skim through this. That's still fundamentally a prison, but it's an order of magnitude less brutal than anything in America. They're taking seriously the concept that restriction of freedom is supposed to be the only punishment. I see that as an acceptable way to treat (and I do mean treat, as in "try to help") people who harm others, and I don't see any way a modern industrialized society can exist without at least the possibility of sending people to a place like this.
I am very familiar with the Norwegian prison system and while I agree that yes it is technically a prison the ability to find fulfillment in your life is much higher. I know that any revolution requires bloodshed but my enemy is only my enemy because he sees me as an other, so the best way to not be an other is to treat them like everyone else and bridge that gap. I know it's idealist but without dreams like that I find it easy to spiral into doomer mode.
these people deserve support and mental care.
And that should be the first option, absolutely. But what do you do when someone refuses to participate in those programs and goes out and keeps harming people? There still needs to be at least the possibility of being put into custody or people just won't take the non-custodial options seriously, especially if they're rich enough to keep paying fines or keep dragging out legal proceedings.
Honestly if your goal is to keep them imprisoned for the rest of their life as a punishment or because you think they’re irredeemable just kill them.
First, any real prison reform would involve radically shorter sentences across the board. In a lot of countries, sentences longer than 2 years are rare and reserved only for the most serious crimes. This is consistent with research suggesting that sometime around that 2 year mark whatever benefits people see from custody plateau or reverse. Ideally, we wouldn't see any sentences longer than that unless the person was an actual threat to the safety of others. More immediately, you can have the most horrible offenders serve more than 2 years while still reducing sentence lengths overall. In some countries you might serve as little as 8 years for murder, for instance. That certainly crosses into purely putative territory (especially considering that most murderers are unlikely to murder again), but I personally don't find that to be terribly unjust.
Second, even if someone appears irredeemably bad or dangerous today, and that would justify long-term imprisonment, it's still a bad idea to kill them. It's impossible to predict how someone might change over 20, 10, or even 5 years, and it's similarly impossible to predict what type of treatment might emerge over the years. And of course there's the ever-present possibility of a wrongful conviction.
I say we do prison abolition, but we also turn the bourgeoisie into a human centipede.
You're supposed to spend it to stimulate the economy. It's literally called a stimulus.
yeah like it literally works both as a wellfare move to keep from dying and a economic move to local business so they don't all close down and the economy dies , this is literally why bolsa familia from lula works and why every single right wing candidate will say they will not touch it during their campaigns, because it just is undeniable how it just works
you're supposed to spread communism during a monopoly game
The Dollop,
Sweet, thanks.
https://soundcloud.com/the-dollop/379-the-landlords-game
it is as if the rich person does not need the money because they are already rich right IT IS AS IF A PERSON WHO HAS NO MONEY CAN'T ALLOW MONEY TO BE INVESTED SO MAYBE THEY GET 6000 IN TEN YEARS BECAUSE THEY WILL DIE BEFORE THAT WITHOUT FOOD
Lol that's nothing. Cringe moron with a cringe haircut, seriously what the fuck is going on with the top of his head?
multiplied 10X in a few years or less
hmm I wonder how that happened
I'm assuming he's talking about investing in either crypto or drug trafficking to get that kind of rate of return over "a few years"
GIVE A POOR PERSON $600
THEY ARE ABLE TO BUY INSULIN, TURNING A $5,000 FUNERAL INTO 30 MORE YEARS OF PRODUCTIVE LABOR WORTH MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, PLUS HUMAN RELATIONSHIPS, AND SUPPORT OF THEIR COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY DIDNT FUCKING DIE
the money doesn't disappear
this person is paid to help you misunderstand this
Didn't you hear the guy? It's gone. It simply vanished into thin air.
Some brave posters have already done so, but here's his book if you want to leave a review. Normally I'd just roast the guy and move on but he's worse than misguided, he's an actual cunt who clearly has never been told "no"
Ok, first of all, that's bullshit. But second of all, if we assume that's true, THAT'S LITERALLY AN ARGUMENT FOR GIVING THE MONEY TO THE POOR PERSON. Give the rich person $5 and let them magically multiply it then. But the poor person obviously needs the $600 either way.
Are you trying to say money exists to be used to obtain human needs? Don't make me laugh! Money exists only to be hoarded and increase itself. Line go up LINE GO UP
those are two very separate accounts. yeah they have the same password and recovery email but like who cares????
You mean, give $600 to a rich person and they will find a way to use it to steal $6,000 from people who actually could have used the $600.
