Not that I blame them, as someone who doesn't want kids, those types are annoying.

  • DocBenway [none/use name]
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    Well you haven't established that consent is necessary for every action. For instance, I can take my neighbors trash to the curb if they are about to miss the garbage truck. Almost all would consider this an act of kindness. So is it possible giving something life is an act of kindness that does not require consent?

    • Amorphous [any]
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      Taking someone's trash out for them is not a massive decision about their life the way forcing someone to exist for (ideally) 80 years or so is.

      Furthermore, it is an action almost certain not to cause any suffering whatsoever, while the act of creating a child is 100% certain to cause suffering to that child.

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        4 years ago

        Okay fine.

        But even if you are correct about this idea, do you really want it to rise to prominence? Do you think the world would be a better place if people thought this idea? I don't mean to sound dramatic, but do you really want humanity to go gently into that good night?

        • Amorphous [any]
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          4 years ago

          completely 100% irrelevant to everything, because that would never happen.

        • PlantsRcoolToo [any]
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          A famous piece that touches on antinatalism deals with just that! httpss://philosophynow.org/issues/45/The_Last_Messiah It's short and an enjoyable read imo. If you check it out I'd be interested to hear what ya think.

    • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      Arguably you're talking about something like implied consent in that situation, which wouldn't necessarily translate to having a child.