I fully understand that AOC is not perfect but she's doing a hell of a lot more than the podcast grifters are.

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    There's a large difference between harrasing, imo when its not comradely critiquing someone but vindicatively trying to tear them down (through a targeted campaign by Dore to opportunistically try and take credit for, and thus discredit, the work of many organizers who collaborated to help AOC win her seat) who wants the same end-goal as you (M4A) but differ on specic tacitics, and the Chapo's roasting of someone like Joe Biden who has never been in allignment with AOC for the same end-goal of M4A. This whole situation has not really made any side look particular well, but the concession made by the Dems recently to forego the PayGo imo has made it more opportunte time to advocate for the Force the Vote and the whole Dore controversy has distracted from this end.

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      who wants the same end-goal as you (M4A) but differ on specic tacitics

      This is literally the same line Warrenites used when she got called out in the primary.

      vindicatively trying to tear them down (through a targeted campaign)

      By demanding they withhold their vote for Pelosi? It is a targeted campaign to get them to do something.

      take credit for, and thus discredit, the work of many organizers who collaborated to help AOC win her seat

      Organizers help elect unaccountable politicians all the time. There are people who do not trust AOC.

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        By demanding they withhold their vote for Pelosi? It is a targeted campaign to get them to do something.

        I agree that this is the case for many of the advocates for the move, like BJG, but Dore has made it a point that the lack of attention that the Squad gave to his show was a point of contention which is obviously distracting from the larger goal since M4A is not dependent on representatives attending a podcast lmao. And sure I get your point about the Warren comparison, but even if the floor vote went through it wouldve been politically killed by the mandatory stipulations of the PayGo, now that that problem has been dealt with I think it is the right time to Force the Vote (or maybe after Georgia elections to ensure that all political blowback falls on the Dems).

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          Part of the movement is to build a left media system. So iono. The idea that ro kanna will go to his show multiple times and get called out, yet the squad won't is a bit interesting. The guy has a big platform and is now a bigger player in the movement. He talks like most of my blue collar family.

          His making it a point that they are disrespecting his viewers and his clout.