• kavila [any]
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      4 years ago

      did he give back all the imperial possessions?

        • kavila [any]
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          4 years ago

          I mean East Turkestan was seized in a period of imperial expansion and ruled from Beijing as a hinterland. Doesn't that mean that Mao should have released control of it? Since he didn't, doesn't that mean the CCP rules over an imperial possession? Making all this shit about stanning China completely ridiculous and hypocritical?

            • LibsEatPoop [any]
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              4 years ago

              tbf we gotta balkanize the whole world. but i'm not gonna say balkanizing china is better or more preferable or should be done before balkanizing the us and shit.

              • Awoo [she/her]
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                4 years ago

                Sure but that shit happens AFTER all the capitalist states are gone.

                • opposide [none/use name]
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                  4 years ago

                  Congrats, you fixed imperialism! We had this whole struggle session just to figure it out!

                  If only somebody had though of this before... oh well

                  :thinkin-lenin:

          • blobjim [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Imperialism isn't "when a government controls an area." What matters is that something is integrated into the main political system and not just ruled from afar and extracted from. And as far as I know, people in Xinjiang have the same voting rights as everyone else.

          • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Doesn’t that mean that Mao should have released control of it?

            No, it means that he should have done his best to institute class consciousness and develop socialism in the territory, which is what he did.

            • kavila [any]
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              4 years ago

              Do you have, for example, polling data showing that the majority of the region wants to be autonomous or anything like that?

              this is some ridiculous debatebro shit. no I don't have reliable polling data showing how many uighurs want to be autonomous. where the fuck would someone get that?

                • kavila [any]
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                  4 years ago

                  Elsewhere in this thread you said: [Uyghurs] don’t want to be part of china. What’s your basis for that assertion? That’s all I’m asking for.

                  they gotta round them up and throw them into camps to make them more chinese

          • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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            4 years ago

            East Turkestan is not a historical term for the region used by its inhabitants until the 1900s where two "East Turkestan Republics" popped up for a few years and did ethnic and religious cleansings, its an islamic separatist term and a fucking yikes look.